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It was a betrayal of one of the most significant things that makes Superman who he is. Superman is basically the embodiment of idealism, he always wins while still doing the right thing. He always finds a way despite the odds. He is the hero everyone looks up to. This point has been emphasized quite strongly in what happened to the man of tommorow and ending battle.

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But this movie wasn't about that version of Superman (or as force_echo pointed out a while ago, that always good version doesn't even seem to exist in the comics), it was about a different version of Superman who is still unsure of himself and not quite there yet. I mean for *vulgarity*s sake, he trashes a guy's truck at one point because he pissed him off.

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Well people complain classic Superman we all love is boring so that's why Zack probably did a new take on the character.  Though it's not actually a new take if you read the comics. It's a combination of different Superman stories and comics. Superman has killed before in the movies (Superman 2) and comics.

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Saw the new Evil Dead last night. I'm kind of mixed about it. While I feel like it dragged on towards the end, I was giggling like a schoolkid whenever a chainsaw was shown. I got so into the last scene that I was staring at Mia's mouth, waiting for her to say "Hail to the Queen!". It would have been corny as shit and gotten a lot of hate reactions, but I would have like shat my pants in excitement.

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I haven't read any of the new 52 but he seems very opposed to killing. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie a lot. Cavill was the best live action Superman I have seen. I guess my main problem was with the plot holes and some stuff didn't make sense. Like letting what happened to his father happen, the 'romance' felt awkward, tired of the military fighting off aliens as they destroy a city.. too similar to Avengers. The small town battle was a lot more appealing and more interesting I think.

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Saw the new Evil Dead last night. I'm kind of mixed about it. While I feel like it dragged on towards the end, I was giggling like a schoolkid whenever a chainsaw was shown. I got so into the last scene that I was staring at Mia's mouth, waiting for her to say "Hail to the Queen!". It would have been corny as shit and gotten a lot of hate reactions, but I would have like shat my pants in excitement.

Yeah I was expecting her to say that too. They probably didn't have her say it so people wouldn't complain like you said. I heard their was a scene with Ash after credits. Don't know if it's true. I felt sorry for the brother. 

 

 

 

I haven't read any of the new 52 but he seems very opposed to killing. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie a lot. Cavill was the best live action Superman I have seen. I guess my main problem was with the plot holes and some stuff didn't make sense. Like letting what happened to his father happen, the 'romance' felt awkward, tired of the military fighting off aliens as they destroy a city.. too similar to Avengers. The small town battle was a lot more appealing and more interesting I think.

I get what your saying. I agree I'm sick and tired of the military at this point in superhero films. The small town battle scene was the best for sure. I loved Superman trying to fight off both of them and try to save the idiot military that kept getting in the way at the same time. 

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I think this was one of the best scenes from any Superman movie, although this movie itself wasn't all that special:

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I guess my main problem was with the plot holes and some stuff didn't make sense. Like letting what happened to his father happen,

 

None of the parts you don't like are plot holes.

 

It's not like he "let" his father die in the sense that he could have stopped it and just didn't want to, he could have stopped it but knew that his father's dying wish was "Don't come over here and save me, we both know you could, but I am not letting you make that choice.

tired of the military fighting off aliens as they destroy a city.. too similar to Avengers. The small town battle was a lot more appealing and more interesting I think.

I get what your saying. I agree I'm sick and tired of the military at this point in superhero films. The small town battle scene was the best for sure. I loved Superman trying to fight off both of them and try to save the idiot military that kept getting in the way at the same time.

Yeah what? Why would you be "tired" of the military showing up to fight alien invaders or super villains in superhero movies? Here's a thought, do you get tired of cops showing up to fight the robbers in crime movies? Or tired of the US Army showing up to fight off the Martians in War of the Worlds? At this point in the movie the US Army knew that there were aliens (everyone did), they also knew they were going to show up in this particular town after they'd started causing shit... so how is the Army showing up to combat alien threats a tired idea?

 

How was the army "idiotic" as they went up against the Kryptonians? They had no clue what their capabilities where, had no clue that *vulgarity*ing A-10 missiles straight to their face would be useless. Would you rather the Earth governments have done nothing at all instead? Pretend that happened. That no one except Superman was doing jack shit to stop the Kryptonians... you'd be here complaining that the movie was stupid because the US Army/Air Force/Navy wasn't trying to stop the obvious aliens trying to destroy mankind.

 

It also made thematic sense to have Superman fight alongside the Army, he's showing Earth that he's there to defend them not destroy them like the other Kryptonians, just like when he let them handcuff him and escort him through the military base. The entire idea was that "Hey, these guys are in over their head, but they are attempting to defend their homes and families as best as they can and I am going to help them." In fact, it was an interesting inversion on the idea of a bumbling idiotic gun-ho military (an inversion which is appearing more often in movies) in that the military actually helped quite alot in the entire movie. It was they who provided the mind muscle to rig up the phantom drive, they who led Superman to the World Engine on the other side of the world, they who lost alot of people leading the assault on the ship-thing in Metropolis (in fact, I think they lost their entire force in that battle) and who sacrificed themselves to stop the terraforming of Earth. If the military was anything in the movie, it sure wasn't "idiotic".

the 'romance' felt awkward,

I agree. In fact, I like every other female actress in this movie over Lois Lane. Antje Traue as Faora was hot, Christina Wren as Major Carrie Farris was pretty/cute, Rebecca Buller as Jenny was pretty, Carmen Lavign as the bar waitress was also pretty. I mean shit, I like secondary female characters with 4 lines over Amy Adams as Lois Lane.

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OK, here is what I mean. What soldier would obey those orders? "Hey see those guys flying at Mach speeds destroying the city with their bare hands.. I want you to go shoot them with your rifle at close range!" "Oh, you mean the guys who just shrugged off a missile strike like it was a cloud of gnats? Yea sure sir! I have no problem doing that, sounds like a solid and logical plan to me!"

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Is it better to fight with death even though it's meaningless or cower and wait for death to claim you?

 

"A good death is its own reward."

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OK, here is what I mean. What soldier would obey those orders? "Hey see those guys flying at Mach speeds destroying the city with their bare hands.. I want you to go shoot them with your rifle at close range!" "Oh, you mean the guys who just shrugged off a missile strike like it was a cloud of gnats? Yea sure sir! I have no problem doing that, sounds like a solid and logical plan to me!"

Maybe they thought "Maybe I'll get lucky and hit her face with my bullets and kill her and stop her from completely destroying this town and killing everyone in it" and thought that was a better alternative to "Let's not do anything and let her completely wreck this town and kill everyone in it".

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I don't think it was smart of the military to shoot and blast missiles in a town full of innocent people right away. They should have gotten people to safety and let Superman deal with the Kryptonians during that time. Afterwards they can shoot and blast the Kryptionans all they want. After the first time the Kryptonians took apart their jets like paper they should have focused on clearing the town and let Superman handle them. If that didn't get the message then the Kryptionan throwing a bus at their jets or a hot alien speed blitzing the crap out of them on the ground should have gotten the message across to stay out of Superman's way because they were only making things worse. In addition it was Superman and Lois who came up with the whole plan which they brought to the military regarding his ship. Superman already knew he had to stop the world engine which is why while he was doing that they where elsewhere flying to the other machine.

 

If you look at the post I never said the military acted stupid throughout the entire movie or anything like that. I was only referring to the town battle. Yeah they kept getting in Superman's way of battling the Kryptonians because not only did he have to watch for any civilians in the area but he had to watch the military on top of it. 

 

The military in the end looked very good actually. They did better then most other versions in superhero films.

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I don't think it was smart of the military to shoot and blast missiles in a town full of innocent people right away. They should have gotten people to safety and let Superman deal with the Kryptonians during that time. Afterwards they can shoot and blast the Kryptionans all they want. After the first time the Kryptonians took apart their jets like paper they should have focused on clearing the town and let Superman handle them. If that didn't get the message then the Kryptionan throwing a bus at their jets or a hot alien speed blitzing the crap out of them on the ground should have gotten the message across to stay out of Superman's way because they were only making things worse. In addition it was Superman and Lois who came up with the whole plan which they brought to the military regarding his ship. Superman already knew he had to stop the world engine which is why while he was doing that they where elsewhere flying to the other machine.

 

If you look at the post I never said the military acted stupid throughout the entire movie or anything like that. I was only referring to the town battle. Yeah they kept getting in Superman's way of battling the Kryptonians because not only did he have to watch for any civilians in the area but he had to watch the military on top of it. 

 

The military in the end looked very good actually. They did better then most other versions in superhero films.

Except it's pretty hard (see impossible) to evacuate a town right when you discover that the enemy combatants are already in that town. Also, given modern targeting they were pretty confident that their attack runs on the Kryptonians wouldn't inflict civilian causalities (which they didn't). By the way, an evacuation would have huddled together all the people while they used the main roads to escape the town... which would have been amazing targets for the Kryptonians.

 

They also didn't make anything worse in the fight between Superman and the two Kryptonian's, if anything (seriously) they provided meat shields while he caught up his strength again.

 

And yes, Superman and Lois came up with the plan, after a computer program told them exactly what to do. However, it was the scientist who figured out how to arm the Phantom Drive and the military that sent forces to make sure the bomb would reach it's target.

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Not really a meaningful death to throw it away in a pointless display of 'valor'. It's kind of like standing in the way of a train, knowing that you can't stop it, but to make a point.

It's like those soldiers facing a tank only armed with an AK. Shooting isn't the answer, play it smart, live longer and maybe someday acquire something that can actually phase it istead of dying pointlessly then and there.

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Except there's innocent civilians that could be hurt if they don't keep them busy. Sacrifice.

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OK,Superman without any morals is a pretty hollow character. I guess he renounced his american citizenship. So much for truth, justice and the American way. He just has a bunch of powers and doesn't really stand for anything now. Is it a reflection of America itself?

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In the movie you mean, or is this comic version? (If comics, wrong thread :P) But I don't get where you think he has no morals.

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Those Rangers were pretty badass taking on Faora with nothing but small arms, even if it was completely useless. I was actually surprised that the military got in as many hits and all around successes as they did during the film. That A-10 actually knock down one of the Kryptonians with its gun run, and if I'm not mistaken the missile actually managed to ring Faora's bell, if only due to sensory overload.

 

IMO, the film did a pretty good job of depicting the military in a relatively realistic and competent manner without making them a force of deus ex machina or stealing the hero's thunder.

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The scene in Superman Returns where he's floating with Lois above the city beats the shit out of any scene in Man of Steel or most superhero movies in general.

 

Superman: Listen; what do you hear?


Lois Lane: Nothing.


Superman: I hear everything. You wrote that the world doesn't need a savior, but every day I hear people crying for one.

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Yaa the movie was short on iconic moments.

 

Just saw World War Z, it was solid and worth watching in my opinion.

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Colonel Hardy is now one of my favorite fictional characters of all time.



And you know what the best part of it is? We never actually saw him die. In my own personal head canon, he survived the C-17 crash and now prowls the Phantom Zone, stalking and killing (now non-superhuman) Kryptonians with his trusty blade.

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Heh more like him and Faora probably fought it out. I am gone be seeing This is the End finally and can't wait. Don't know about Long Ranger though. Keeping hearing mixed reviews.

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What are some predictions for these movies:

 

Pacific Rim

 

Elysium

 

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Pacific Rim is going to be stupid and generic, but will at least be at terms with it's role as a movie where giant robots punch giant monsters. Elysium will also be generic, but will try to be a social commentary intelligent science fiction movie, like District 9 or something, but will end up being like Oblivion for that very reason.

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Just some general musings (read: whiny complaints) about the military side of Man of Steel, simply because I'm bored:

 

1.) It was a little bit strange how some random 3-star Army General became head representative of the entire planet of Earth and its interests. Joint Chiefs? Screw 'em. President? Screw 'em. International community? Screw 'em. They weren't even mentioned. Nope, just scary General man making world-altering decisions on a whim.

 

2.) Let's be honest: if two civilization-ending alien WMDs were activating on Earth, would the military forces really trust the survival of the human race to an alien they had previously been trying to kill and a "so crazy it just might work" sort of plan? If something like what the movie portrays actually played out, I'd expect to see Metropolis turned into glass from the deployment of thermonuclear weapons. And the crazy thing is, it might have actually worked.

 

I realize this is just me reading way too far into things, but I'm throwing it out there in the interest of discussion (...and because I'm bored).

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