Bergy_Berg Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If anyone would like to debate me about the match I am totally game. I'll even fight for Booker if no one plans on supporting him.Let's see, Booker has guns and tonics, and is generally a regular human beyond those bits.Alucard is a vampire who shrugs off-nay, laughs off bullets. He easily heals from any damage Booker would be able to throw at him. He's basically immortal and has a pool of powers that are just incredible. Your move Booker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Let's see, Booker has guns and tonics, and is generally a regular human beyond those bits.Alucard is a vampire who shrugs off-nay, laughs off bullets. He easily heals from any damage Booker would be able to throw at him. He's basically immortal and has a pool of powers that are just incredible. Your move Booker.Okay so I guess I'll try to defend Booker, even though I'm on team Alucard. This fight doesn't have to be restrained to just being a deathmatch where Alucard would obviously win; but if we were to go along these lines there really isn't anything to say that Bookers possession ability wouldn't work on Alucard, since we do know that Alucard can be controlled by a magical force based entirely on his own series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergy_Berg Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Okay so I guess I'll try to defend Booker, even though I'm on team Alucard. This fight doesn't have to be restrained to just being a deathmatch where Alucard would obviously win; but if we were to go along these lines there really isn't anything to say that Bookers possession ability wouldn't work on Alucard, since we do know that Alucard can be controlled by a magical force based entirely on his own series.And then? Does Alucard kill himself upon the end of possession? Does Booker try to kill possessed Alucard until that ends? Booker, and for that matter everyone at street level, gets murdered by Alucard. He wins this fight, there's no point arguing against it. Sorry if I sound pissy, I'm not trying to. I think in our back and forth, we're both right on points, and we're both wrong on points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 And then? Does Alucard kill himself upon the end of possession? Does Booker try to kill possessed Alucard until that ends? Booker, and for that matter everyone at street level, gets murdered by Alucard. He wins this fight, there's no point arguing against it. Sorry if I sound pissy, I'm not trying to. I think in our back and forth, we're both right on points, and we're both wrong on points.Once again no one ever said this was a fight to the death he could simply make Alucard concede defeat as far as we care. And if the second point is about the choice based upon your opinion and your vote; I honestly don't think the vote should be decided with bias, or made based off of anything other then who would win the fight/challenge/whatever and I can't agree with choosing the losing character out of spite, and even though I don't sound it I am trying to say this with as little offense as possible. I can understand why you would choose to it like that I just can't possibly agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Seeing as how Wonder Woman was allowed, I rather choose her for my team than to be against me. There are others just as powerful and invulnerable as you can see. Alucard, Ghost Rider, and Iceman are a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Dunno - a lotta of this coulda been avoided with some research beforehand in respect to the characters submitted but I understand - time constraints and stuff =) I'll vote... later. *rarely votes for anything as is* Edit: Also hilarious Zreth... there's literally nothing to debate - if we consider this seriously, Alucard plays with Booker for as long Booker could entertain him then gets torn apart and eaten by his shadow dog thingies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremi Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Debate?Okay but that's like debating if he kills Bookers ass in one second or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Meh. I sent in Gamora and Drax and they both got denied. Alucard would murder either with relative ease. Some of these picks just seem odd to me. I kinda hope the acceptable parameters window is tighter next season to avoid stuff like this. Regardless... I still want votes. GIMME DEM VOTES PEOPLE! Also, yeah, no point in debating this. Possession might work on Alucard... then he shoots himself after a minute, takes no damage and murders Booker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 While I agree with everything everyone else is saying; if you want to it's not that really hard to try and debate this, once again no one even said this was a fight to the death. Actually no parameters whatsoever have been really given to any of the matches which could kind of influence things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Explain a way this fight ends favorably for Booker, cause I'd love to hear it. Running doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KibaxHinata Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I think Alucard could solo HALF of the Fantasy Team until he gets to any telepaths... And thats BEFORE absorbing Schrodgner. Poor Bookers going to be a smear on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm pretty sure I already did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 YOU SO FUNNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm pretty sure I already didIf you're referring to your statement regarding Possession, no. Doesn't work. Lasts about a minute, then Alucard shoots himself, which does nothing whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deojusto Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If it works on him at all. Possession decreases effectiveness as your opponents get stronger. Mini-bosses like firemen can be temporarily possessed but don't commit seppuku at the end, they just go back to attacking you. Handymen, Siren(s), and Boys of Silence are completely immune. The farther you get from normal human or normal machine the less it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If it works on him at all. Possession decreases effectiveness as your opponents get stronger. Mini-bosses like firemen can be temporarily possessed but don't commit seppuku at the end, they just go back to attacking you. Handymen, Siren(s), and Boys of Silence are completely immune. The farther you get from normal human or normal machine the less it works. Yes, but that's a game mechanic built in to the game so the game isn't broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Also your kind of stuck up on the only option after the possession is to wait for Alucard to shoot himself bit. The win condition in this is never stated,so death doesn't have to be the win condition ,and really when your opponent isn't trying to kill the crap out of you it becomes alot easier to figure out an alternate way to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Instead of saying THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO WINNING - enlighten us on the alternate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Instead of saying THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO WINNING - enlighten us on the alternate.Forcing him to declare a loss while he's under Booker's control AKA literally having Alucard declaring in some manner I lose, and avoiding the fight altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 ...yeah, no. Wouldn't be Alucard - wouldn't count, I'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Well, regardless I'm gonna be pulling out this season after this match if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Well, regardless I'm gonna be pulling out this season after this match if possible. Okay, Ethan scolded me in chat so I'm not pulling out any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tomisntblue Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 ...yeah, no. Wouldn't be Alucard - wouldn't count, I'd think.He could force Alucard to tie himself up so that he's completely immobilized! Okay, I'm just pulling at strings here. I honestly know next to nothing about Booker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Ok, points in favor of Booker 1) He's technically Human, the only thing Alucard goes easy on and will allow to kill him.2) He has a varity of Vigors and Gear which sets him above and beyond the normal humans Alucard normally faces. Perhaps setting him on par with Anderson, another Human who Alucard would have let kill him.3) Alucard will probably never release his seals fighting him, not even if he needed to, to survive. Points in favor of Alucard 1) Technically 1,000,000 "extra lives" counting the souls he has within his body that he uses to tank deaths.2) Already Massive regeneration3) Extremely high physical strength and speed, with enhanced senses and athletics4) The ability to phase though walls5) The ability to walk on walls/ceilings regardless of gravity6) Various other low level powers such as telekinesis, hypnosis and the like associated with vampires7) Two oversized handguns and a cool trenchcoat and hat. Also, Street Level Alucard is not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 NO SHIT SHERLOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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