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  1. Good question. Jason might find it easier to face one, but Michael is a trickier figure to gauge, as he is supernatural, but within the realms of realism to some degree.

    At this point, we have 4 Michaels to work with too. 

    Michael from  4-6, arguably the strongest version of Myers would be pretty tough, not sure if Indoraptor tough though.

    Michael from H20 and Resurrection, is more or less similar to Myers from 1 and 2, with certain tweaks, but admittedly I haven't seen those movies in a little while.

    Zombie Michael is strong, but more of a brute than Myers is typically, so I don't know really where he would fall.

    2018 Michael is like H20, but is also hard for me to gauge here for certain reasons.

    That said, even with the strongest feats, I'm not sure if any of the 4, or 5, if you consider 1 and 2 separate from the other 4, can really stand a chance here, but that is perhaps skeptical on my part.


  2. On 12/10/2021 at 8:15 PM, Fox said:

    Maybe a tough match for Mad Max... or maybe not!

    We have seen Gregory House a lot over the last couple seasons and we ask, well how dangerous is it really? And the answer seems to be... it's complicated.

    Unlike an Alien Hive or the Overlook Hotel which is pretty much always dangerous, what I make of Gregory House is that it varies based on the contestant's personality and the random dice rolls of who they meet inside.

    Correct me if that's not the gist of it.

    In this scenario, I would favor Max who is all about survival and isn't real talkative.

    Talkative or not though, the inhabitants kind of have a way of finding people regardless of that fact.

    One visitor to the mansion didn't need to leave his room at all, for some of the residents to visit him, as the Chef and Catherine the nurse paid him visits on different occasions.

  3. Pretty intense, as always Raphael is known for his brutality and at times homicidal tendencies when pushed too far, and your match certainly conveys both qualities as one can feel the anger, but also the frustration and desperation as he is fighting for more than just himself in these matches. There is a deeper sense, beyond the surface level of things, that each and every match is a life and death struggle, although the tournament likely won't go that far, and with that sense Raphael is deeply burdened here, just as much as Benimaru is to fight back from the brick wall set behind in this match. All that is a lot to try to impart onto readers, but you are doing well at it, as you tend to bring these elements into your writing in a more subtle form or style.

    Leonardo will have a pretty soulful bout here in some ways, similar to his match with Haohmaru earlier, but I do think that he will find a way to win this fight in the end. Saisyu is tough and experienced in his fighting style, but if Leo can keep mobile, taking to the air and dodging the flames, and keep some distance between Saisyu and himself, I think he will take the win, as I believe he has probably fought stronger and more experienced opponents than Saisyu in the past, not to discredit Saisyu's abilities on that note either.

  4. Between the two of them, I can see the Mystery Inc. team potentially subduing Clayton and his men, more so than I can see them doing so with Nasira.

    Nasira is a highly successful sorceress in her own right, and is capable of summoning various monsters and spirits, and resurrecting people from death, with certain artifacts, she is also capable of hypnotizing individuals, and even sending/banishing Genie to the Cave of Wonders using her magic. Compared to Jafar, she is a far more capable threat magic wise, and is certainly capable of conjuring up things that might keep the gang on their toes, especially since the things she conjures are more mystical and or fantastical compared to the things they are usually pitted up against.

    Now, while the Mystery Inc. has never typically been scared off a case before, they have been scared away by Norma Deathman and a handful of others over the course of their various shows, so it is possible to frighten them enough to get them to flee, it just takes work. Could Nasira do that?

    Potentially, and honestly, I could see her doing so a good bit more than I could Clayton, as Clayton has been outsmarted by Tarzan when he acted more like a brute, which is something I could see the gang using against him, and Clayton also tended to act both suave and restrained to some degree, at least at first, making him less scary or frightening to most people, whereas Nasira does act the same way that Clayton does, but prefers to let herself go, reveling in her dark persona and often possibly appearing frightening as a result. In addition, with her magic and her abilities it is probable, unknown, but still probable that she might be able to cast a spell capable of actually scaring the gang, perhaps only a slight bit more so probable than Clayton himself.


  5. 17 hours ago, Fox said:

    As Eli is blind, how does he even find his way there?

    Kane needed a rope to get down into the hold in the original movie.

    I mean, he could stumble into that room by accident, but that might just kill him based on the requirement of a rope, not gonna help the face huggers/aliens much there.

    But assuming he doesn't, Eli would have a pretty good chance of surviving in scenario, if he plays his cards right.

  6. Inguma might be a better choice here, mostly because he is associated with dreams and nightmares, things that are not usually associated with Toons in a sense, but which would go hand in hand with them if we give it a bit of thought.

    That is to say, if we think about it the Toons might like or even find some decent association with a god who has control of a realm where by all accounts they can exist even when someone is asleep. Ever dream of Bugs Bunny? Have a nightmare about Gossamer? Day dream about punching Bluto?  Inguma can make it all happen, as his realm of dreams/nightmares would more than likely facilitate that.

  7. 2 hours ago, Boratz said:

    Right now, leaning more towards Zira

    As Merc pointed out, he doesn't really have a network or henchmen that could assist him. Zora has that to some extent. I don't think either one would do well, but she might have a little better chance with her resources

    Well Khan does have Kaa, but their relationship is dubious at best.

  8. Well Rakai, here's Supergirl's chance to redeem herself.

    Personally, I'm liking Supergirl here, as, I am speculating by saying, that Firelord isn't the strongest of the herald's outside of Silver Surfer himself, so I'm thinking that Supergirl might just be able to take it here, if she plays it right and finds a decent way to put him down.

  9. Ursula would probably fit in a good bit more and have an easier time taking over Monstropolis subtly than Barbossa would, she is kind of similar to Waternoose in appearance, and she can play the innocent, sympathetic angle quite well, as she convinced Ariel to give up her voice for human legs, hypnotized or convinced Eric to marry her, and even convinced King Triton to become a polyp servant of hers, in exchange for his daughter's freedom, so she is a decently impressive manipulator in certain circumstances. Here, it is plausible that she could manipulate the masses, by appealing to their despair at the energy crisis, and convince them to go far harder, scare far more and possibly kill the kids in question as a result, due to the fear being too strong, but she will definitely be able to appeal to them by appealing their desperation and need for a solution in order to keep their way of life going.

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  10. Both are creepy in different ways, but one has the feeling of being creepy based on appearance and ad pitches, whereas the other has the notion of being creepy based on being a grown man in a bunny suit.

    One is creepy because of a more fantastical sense of danger and horror, he mystifies you and entices you into doing things, while the other is creepy because of the notion of what he is in the most simplest of forms.

    My point is, the Noid may appeal to kids for sure based on his more goofy appearance, but I can also see kids and perhaps adults going to the Judderman side just as easily, not because they are necessarily horror addicts, but rather because there is something mystical, something dazzling about him and his world that attracts people's attention, stays in their mind, and sticks with them.

    Let me ask everyone this, which sticks in your mind more soundly, more distinctly, a horror movie that you like or were scared by, or the last McDonald's commercial you saw last month, last week, or yesterday?  Which influences you more to buy something, a goofy cartoon, or a more inspired form of media?

    The K-Fee commercials from Germany for example, used this particular tactic to appeal to their audience, and have likely boosted sales of the product in question vicariously as a result, whereas McDonalds, Burger King, Duncan Donuts, etc., routinely create some of the same ads, but get by on their fame and already present notoriety, so for me, it suggests that scary advertisements can stick, and can leave an impact on people, if done right, even to entice them to buy different colored ketchup.

  11. On 12/2/2021 at 3:45 PM, Fox said:

    I think I like Thermal Thief here, because LOD HQ is probably drafty, and they need some weatherizing.

    It's important to be able to save on your heating and energy bills when you are housing a bunch of villainous freeloaders.

    See guys?

    When you are villainous PSA figure, sometimes you can exploit your villainy for the benefit, of other villains, hey.

    Thief might as well bring along Wattage Waster and Cold Air Crook too, as the Legion will definitely benefit from the extra electricity and refrigeration that can only come off of the tax payer's dime. Heehee hoo hee ho!

  12. Hey Rakai, I apologize for the late reply, but I just finished reading through it, and I did appreciate the work you put into it and how you manage to keep crafting these matches in a way that continues to challenge each of the fighters to their max. As mentioned in this match, Donatello and Goro Daimon couldn't be more different as fighters much less as individuals, but the way that each of them is being challenged is more than beneficial for both fighters. Donnie is being challenged to act more stealthily and rely more on cunning, while also being a tech based fighter, while Goro is being forced to realize here that brute strength and fighting moves will only take him so far against most opponents, some are even more intelligent and strategically better than he is in a lot of ways. Again, both are winning here in terms of their personality and character if they take the positive aspects of their interaction in this match, in spite of who wins or loses here. Donnie is certainly going through an interesting character arc here to say the least.

    Raphael will be challenged here too, but in a different way, as he will have to play this one a bit more defensively, and potentially try to find higher ground between him and Benimaru in the warehouse, upper floors and high stacked crates might be the way to go, but I digress there, as ultimately he'll have to close the gap eventually. I'm thinking that outside of dodging the electric attacks Benimaru can produce, Raphael will probably have to rely on his ninjutsu techniques quite a bit more to gain any real, potential advantage against Benimaru, and counter both his speed and his lightning in this fight.

  13. On 12/2/2021 at 2:57 PM, Fox said:

    You could talk to @Z451 about that.  He specializes in picking obscure characters.  It's always an entertaining team, but I don't think I've ever seen one of them in the finals.

    The finals no. But some have done fairly well in the past, Semar and Orca being among them.

    Anyway, I just like to provide some extra variety to the competition win or lose.🙂

  14. George Volcano is a bit more unknown to most, I didn't pick him either myself, but he is quite popular with the Youtube Poop community as a source of meme material, and has been remixed quite a number of times with the most recent being as of 6 months ago, so it is safe to say that he along with his co-mascot, Tyranosaurus Alan, are a great source of fodder and entertainment for many out there. How this helps him sell a smartphone is dubious to say the least, but I wager that if Amazon found a way to capitalize on his "fame" with this group, and perhaps those out there that either enjoy watching or enjoying making YouTube poops, then maybe they might be able to pull it off. It won't be a mass market, but it will be just enough of a niche market to survive for a bit in spite of the costs.

    George also has one more point in my book, in that he does seem to have more personality, as off the wall and strange as it might be, than Mr. Clean. George is a volcano, but he is one that can talk, move around, express himself in odd ways, and shoot out Volvic water, stranger than anything else but yeah, whereas Mr. Clean doesn't necessarily talk or interact with the audience in any way that is particularly original, as certain other ad mascots could do some of what he has done just the same, so he is lacking in oomph in some ways, to me.

  15. On 11/28/2021 at 3:08 PM, DSkillz said:


    Midnighter's Battle Computer isn't a literal computer, lol. It's all genetic engineering. 

    Between Midnighter's strength, speed, skill, and precog, I don't like Android 8's odds here. In fact, he may even opt to break the ice for the android to fall through. 

    Well for what it is worth, 8 is no slouch in strength  either, as his punches can send people over mountains and into the horizon, and his kicks can topple an enhanced Battle Jacket that managed to knock out and almost kill Goku as a kid, not as impressive, but still pretty significant. Speed wise, he was able to use his boosters to fly pretty fast and pretty effectively, so much so that he is faster than PTP Kid Goku who is comparable to post 21st Budokai Goku, pretty significant as a measuring stick there. Skill is where he lacks, as 8 wasn't designed as much of a great fighter, but rather as more of a living weapon, sentient, but with focus primarily on pummeling, beating down, or suffocating an enemy with both speed and power. Precognition is another weakness here for him as he won't be able to necessarily win through the most conventional of methods, but it can be said, that he can be beaten in this if his opponent is faster than him, inactive, or a very powerful psychic, as these factors can succeed in besting him.

    Falling in isn't as much a factor for 8 either, as his flying capabilities will allow him to keep above the water if he needs to, and his body is actually insulated somehow, though it is never specified how, to be able to resist extremely cold temperatures, cold enough to freeze a living being in seconds, so I don't believe that the water as cold as it may be would freeze him, sink him yes, but that won't put him down for good either.

    Based on what I can assume here, while 8 isn't nearly as skilled as Midnighter, he could still win by outrunning Midnighter with his speed, tough to estimate between them there, or by being inactive, as 8's personality doesn't initially lead him into a fight before an opponent would make a move, he's more of a pacifist, even more so than Android 16, until someone else throws the first punch, such as General White for example, but PTP might also work against me there in the same sense, so it is what it is.

  16. The above video should explain a bit about the Thermal Thief, but here's another relevant part of his history, capcc8.jpg

    Suffice it to say, the Thermal Thief emanates from a combination of an animated PSA and a PSA comic sponsored by the Campbell's Kids in 1980, during President Carter's energy crisis woes, where he is for all intents and purposes is the personification of the act of wasting heat/energy by leaving doors/windows open in the Winter, and as revealed from the comic is capable of draining or drawing heat from a room, or the sun, depending on the circumstances.

    Compared to Toad, I'm actually thinking that the Thief will take a pretty comfortable lead here, as I could see him putting his guilt tactical nature to good use in blackmailing people, possibly environmental based politicians or conservationists, by presenting them dirt on their dirty dealings with coal or cutting down trees and the like, in that a PSA villain is actually a strong candidate.

  17. Seemingly a bad pull for Inguma, but the dream/nightmare god could feed his followers through another aspect of things, that is to say that if we interpret the dream realm as a means for feeding and granting people food, Inguma could theoretically feed his people far more food and drink than Hera could think of under realistic limitations.

    Hera isn't necessarily a Harvest goddess, and while she certainly would or could have access to food in a great amount, her not being a goddess of agriculture. hunting or fishing, puts her in just as much of a pickle as it does Inguma, although less so do to her notable connections within the Greek pantheon of both gods and goddesses. If, however, we take away outside help from this equation, the plan is leveled between them, and if, we also consider Inguma's position as a god of dreams and nightmares, it becomes more evident to me, that the Basque god here could conjure up more food via his control of dreams/nightmares than Hera might be able to compete with realistically.

    All that aside, Inguma is kind of an interesting figure, not just because of his control of dreams/nightmares, but also because of his nature as almost an ancient Basque Freddy Krueger of sorts. My personal opinion anyway, so take that as you will.

  18. On 11/12/2021 at 3:56 PM, Pizzaguy2995 said:

    For a second there I thought Will was facing Dr. Gregory House lol.

    Had to do some research on this Gregor House but from what I understand it’s kinda like Stephen King’s 1408 except that the manager (Gregory) is helping the hotel try to break it’s victim’s mentally and drive them insane. 

    I honestly think Will Graham is built for a scenario like this. He’s already had to endure Hannibal Lecter trying to break him mentally for years and he’s always managed to resist Lecter’s mind games and beat whatever serial killer Lecter sends his way. So he’ll not only have experience resisting mental manipulation but I also think his love for his wife and son will push him to make it out of that house and back to them.

    Fair points for Graham, but I think that you are underestimating the House's residents to some degree as these individuals can potentially both kill and break a person with very little effort if they wanted to.

    Gregory himself, is of the least concern, as he often just indulges in the madness without getting too violent with the visitors to the house. Others however, are on a completely different level, and could easily kill a normal man if not redistricted by the conceit of simply trying to break the guests and visitors or the very limitations of the show's plot from episode to episode.

    Catherine and Hell's Chef, are similar to most slashers, except much much faster, and not inhibited for the most part by the limitations of real life physics, they operate by toon logic instead, and each wields a needle to drain a person of blood and a butcher knife to cut them up in certain situations. The Roulette Boy forces guests and visitors into a board game, with literal explosive spaces and other hazards, that Gregory himself barely survived had it not been for him being a toon. Angel/Devil Dog tends to give people a false sense of security, if she is feeling bad on a certain day, before either trapping them or leading them into situations in which their is almost no safe passage away, such an endless tunnel or loop scenario, which could lead to a person's death by starvation or anything else that can occur in states of panic. The Cactus Gunman is a persistent sharp shooter, that shoot first and ask questions later, and will not hesitate in killing a person if he feels insulted or cheated in some way.

    My point is this, the House does have many residents who be able to kill someone with little effort, if they were intending to, and many things that go far beyond normal as well, as it is very much so a toon universe and tends to go by the rules of such. Graham could win here, but after thinking about the circumstances required to make that happen, I do that it would be less likely.

  19. 16 hours ago, Fox said:

    This is interesting. Pretty much a straight up fight between bad villains.

    I feel this one could go either way, but I'm liking Trapster's chances of trapping the Shocker. He has trapped stronger foes... you know, occasionally.  Plus he started out with the name "Paste-Pot Pete".  You have to have a lot of self confidence to call yourself that.

    Eh true, but for some reason Shocker always seems to be a much greater threat most of the time, due to his ability to effectively spar with and defeat Spider-Man in some of their encounters, and his overwhelming offensive capabilities, not to say Trapster doesn't have the capability to do either of the former mentioned, but that Shocker seem like the greater threat of the two based on these notions.

  20. 12 hours ago, Fox said:

    I'm just going to be honest and say I don't know much about the Yinchorri.  The Wiki link has one line: says they are sentient turtles.  I kind of ended my research there.

    The Shi'ar, however, I'm pretty familiar with.  If all I know about their foe is that they are sentient turtles, then I'm gonna have to say that the Shi'ar have likely dealt with bigger threats.

    I'll wait to vote to see if anyone brings any impressive factuals about the Yinchorri to the discussion, but strong lean on Shi'ar currently.

    There is a little more to the Yinchorri than just that, but I'm not sure if it would be enough to defeat or even stave off the Shi'ar for too long.

    The Yinchorri are a alien species from Star Wars who managed to overwhelm and conquer several worlds after seizing various armaments and equipment from the Golden Nyss Shipyards in an blitzkrieg typed raid. Their conquests included many worlds and moons, which were conquered in just under a week, by utilizing the equipment and armaments they stole, chief among them much of the Chalenor star system, including the moon world of Mayvitch 7, which while armed against pirates and marauders was no match against a military force. The territory they acquired wasn't held for too long, that is multiple years there after, as the Jedi and eventually the Republic itself, started to strike back against the Yinchorri over time, and eventually forced them to surrender on their home world.

    What is most impressive with them, is their cortosis based equipment, which is resistant to energy based assault from blaster fire, and can at least temporarily short circuit lightsabers for a time if the saber strikes the cortosis based component in any way, their flutter packs which give them flight and leverage over their opponents for up to an hour, and as mentioned earlier, their blitzkrieg tactics, as they often sweep over many of the lesser armed and lesser prepared opponents in smaller military areas.

    As also mentioned before, once the Jedi got involved, and eventually the Republic later on, the Yinchorri were overpowered and eventually brought down, as the Republic's tech and war vessels easily overpowered the Yinchorri's small stolen fleet and arsenal, and the Jedi entered their command base and forced their surrender.

    The Shi'ar are likely as strong or stronger than the Republic at the time of the Yinchorri's conflicts with them, and thus, I can't see a massive conflict between the two lasting too long as a result, however, it is possible that the Yinchorri could last for some time, as the cortosis they acquired over time, could possibly be applied to their ships and other equipment, and might be able to repel some energy attacks for a little while at least, although the later statements are more speculation than anything else conclusive, so I wouldn't take it at face value, but as a possibility more than anything else.

  21. Good attention to detail in terms of customs and behavior there Rakai, it is great to see how the Turtles have interacted with ancient Japanese warriors and what positives have emanated from said interactions with them. These fights in particular have worked out well for the Turtles, because it has given them a greater basis of appreciation for the culture and the customs that Splinter has imbued in them over the years, a good thing for them in terms of broadening their connection to the man who has acted like a father to them and to the areas of their family that have connected them too over the years.

    The fighting again, is as intense as it is important to the story, and without it the story wouldn't work out quite the same way, but with it and in addition to it, the story works well in each match, as an opportunity for the Turtles to grow in different via each of the characters and personalities they encounter along the way. In other words though, just as the Turtles themselves have mentioned, and Splinter too, the tournament, the matches and the events surrounding it themselves, have been nothing but beneficial to the Turtles, as each and every one has brought the Turtles an even greater chance of growing in different ways than those they may have been accustomed too.

    In terms of the fighting between Mikey and Shingo, I see it going over pretty well as Mikey will find a way to defeat Shingo in some manner, so long as he can keep his guard up and block Shingo's thrusts and upper body attacks. The fight won't be an easy one for him here, just as the others haven't been, and he'll have to also keep an eye on Shingo's high kick strikes in their battle, but if he can keep focused on Shingo and anticipate what he might do, I can see Mikey outpacing Yabuki in their match up, and even if he is lucky maybe getting a few good jabs and strikes at his hips for example, a pretty decent weak point on his body.

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