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[AVP vs The Terminator]

Hulk is stated to weigh less than a ton. Why doesn't someone like Thor or another flying brick just punch or throw him into orbit where he can't return to Earth, eventually reverts to Banner and suffocates due to lack of oxygen?

Because that is a dickish thing to do.

[Classic80s]

Is it possible for someone to be both a Herald of Galactus and a Horseman of Apocalypse at the same time?

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Is it possible for someone to be both a Herald of Galactus and a Horseman of Apocalypse at the same time?

Probably not. Their loyalty would have to lie with either Galactus or Apocalypse, not both.

[sirmethos]

It's possible, but highly improbable.

[Classic80s]

It's possible, but highly improbable.

How do you think a scenario would play out in this case, where one man is both a Herald and Horseman simultaniously?


By the way, how exactly does someone become a Horseman? Like, what's the process? (Both willingly and unwillingly)

[sirmethos]

It would have to be a scenario where a Herald, is captured by Apocalypse, and turned into one of his Horsemen.

And the process of becoming a Horseman, usually includes some kind of augmentation, as well as some kind of control mechanism, along with brainwashing, to make the control mechanism more effective.

[Classic80s]

So for example, lets say Apocalypse captures Wolverine, does he inject something into his mind, or what? How does the augmentation work? And how does Apocalypse decide which Horseman a new member will be (like Death or War)?

That would be an interesting scenario where Apocalypse captures a Herald and makes him a Horseman. In that case, what happenes when Galactus gives an order, but Apocalypse gives another?

How come Mr. Sinister isnt a Horseman?

[force_echo]

I think he augments his horsemen with Celestial tech.

[DSkillz]

I think he augments his horsemen with Celestial tech.

That, and I think a single molecule from Apocalypse can put a being under his control.

[Classic80s]

I wonder what would happen if Batman were to be successfully injected with Super Solider Serum (ala Steve Rogers)?


By the way, the comic where Captain America and Batman are doing karate moves on each other and both are blocking the other's moves was kinda strange. Captain America is supposed to be boosted beyond regular human capabilities (superior to even the most superior everyday man) yet the everyday man in Batman was able to keep up with him blow for blow. That was kinda weird because no matter how good Bats is in hand to hand combat, Captain America should still be superior to him in the physical sense (thus faster reflexes and reaction) thus should be able to connect on Batman with relative ease.

I know Batman is trained to peak physical condition, but Steve Rogers is supposed to be beyond peak physical human condition. He's literally superhuman. And both have similar training, but logic states that Captain America should be superior in a hand to hand striking match.

[force_echo]

Captain America is at peak human condition canonically. So is Batman.

Also, the Super-Soldier serum probably wouldn't do anything to Batman. The serum's purpose was to enhance a person's physical capabilities to the highest a human's can be. Batman's already reached that level, therefore, it wouldn't really do anything.

[sirmethos]

"what would happen if Batman were to be successfully injected with Super Solider Serum (ala Steve Rogers)?"

He would be put on generally the same level as Steve Rogers. There would be some minor differences(due to the difference in their general body structure), but all in all, it would be the same.


"the comic where Captain America and Batman are doing karate moves on each other and both are blocking the other's moves was kinda strange. Captain America is supposed to be boosted beyond regular human capabilities (superior to even the most superior everyday man) yet the everyday man in Batman was able to keep up with him blow for blow."

1. That comic is non-canon.
2. The reason that Batman was able to pretty much stalemate Cap(though Batman himself said that Cap could probably beat him). Is that it was a crossover, and neither Marvel, nor DC, are willing to let their 'peak human' lose to the other. Thus, we get Batman being able to stalemate Cap, but saying that Cap could probably beat him after a long fight.

If a fight between the two actually happened(like in the comic), Cap would win within a minute or two. Primarily due to far superior speed and reflexes.

[force_echo]

JLA vs. Avengers is canon.

[sirmethos]

JLA vs. Avengers is also filled with PIS, and the two companies compromising with each other.

[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Hey Sirmethos that comic is the one where Logan Beas Lobo right?
For sure PIS

But Storm might be able to beat WW if he uses her sharp ice projectiles, that's if she isn't speed rush

[sirmethos]

No, that was Marvel vs. DC. That one is non-canon, and half of the fights were decided by fan votes(lobo vs. wolverine, among others).

[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

By the way did you see the Italy Spain game? That was nuts.

[Marvel Man]

Italy vs Spain wasn't even close to being a game.

Spain DESTROYED Italy. It was like watching a nature video where the cheetah runs down the gazelle. Totally brutal. Spain cemented its place in history.

MARVANOTE: And I'm pretty sure Apocalypse picks at random who gets what name. Cause honestly, all the names are interchangeable, save for pestilence.

[Classic80s]

What is PIS?

[MarvelFan15]

Plot Induced Stupidity