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Match 5259 The Romulan Star Empire and The Klingon Empire vs. Galactic Republic (Star Wars)


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#21 comic_book_fan

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:21 PM

I didn't see anything about Dooku in the setup.

But the Jedi should easily stomp the Romulan & Klingon warriors. Force + Lightsaber = uberstomp. As far as ship to ship battles, that would be a little more tricky.


Where does Warp Speed rate against Lightspeed in Star Wars? (The Falcon can travel across the galaxy back and forth, but at maximum warp it would take like 100 years for a warp ship to go that same distance, based on Voyager)

warp 1 1x lightspeed
warp 2 10 x lightspeed
warp 3 39 x lightspeed
warp 4 102x lightspeed
warp 5 214xlightspeed
warp 6 392xlightspeed
warp 7 645xlightspeed
warp 8 1,024xlightspeed
warp 9 1,516xlightspeed
warp9.51,837xlightspeed

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:27 PM

So wait who are you saying is faster comic book?

Anyways you do see the stars turn to lines in Star Trek
And heres what I'm saying Lightspeed is faster, but Warp is more able to be manuverable
Oh and for Voyager *God D**M it* it was supposed to take 70 years.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:31 PM

Okay let's not get hung up on lightspeed vs warp speed it will just get ridiculous let's just assume on'e slightly better than the other.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:36 PM

Yes good I idea we probably will kill each other over this and I know Mercenaryblade hates Technobabble (Star Trek Phrase)
Lets each go our seperate ways and let the votes decide.
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:35 PM

So wait who are you saying is faster comic book?

Anyways you do see the stars turn to lines in Star Trek
And heres what I'm saying Lightspeed is faster, but Warp is more able to be manuverable
Oh and for Voyager *God D**M it* it was supposed to take 70 years.



70 years for Voyager to get from where they were back to Federation Territory and/or Earth. But from one side of the galaxy to the other, it would take 100+ years at Maximum Warp.

But in SW, at "lightspeed" (even though I think it's much faster than the speed of light) it can be done in a matter of hours/days (based on Han Solo's comments).


In ST, when they are at Warp Speed, they are still in danger. Things can still attack them. But in SW, once they go into hyperspace, they are completely safe from any outside attack.

(My guess is that they use lightspeed to reach hyperspace, which is significantly faster than the speed of light, but call it lightspeed anyway)



Maybe SW Lightspeed =/= ST Slipstream.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:38 PM

80s the creator of the match is tired of the lightspeed warp talk.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:40 PM

Then he doesn't have to talk with us about it. If you don't want to talk about it anymore, fine.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:42 PM

Yah I'm willing to let you win the Warp Lightspeed battle but I still say that an orbital bombardment would kill either side so it'll be a space space battle.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:51 PM

About a ship to ship space battle, the Star Destroyers are bigger (I think), for sure the Super Star Destroyers are, but the advantage would have to go to the Rom/Klings because of cloaking. The only disadvantage to that is that they can't fire while cloaked. When it comes down to it, the Clones would pilot the smaller fighters, and since there's so many of them, they sure outnumber the Rom/Klings.


I'll say this.... if Shinzon is leading the attack for the Rom/Klings, then the Rom/Klings win. If not, I think the Republic pulls it out.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:02 PM

Shinzon wasn't born back in the 23rd century but their were numerous commanders in both the Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire who could equal him if not outdue him. Assuming Mercenary doesn't want to bring the power of the weapons and he wants to make them equal, "that's what you said last match mercenary right?" then I have to go with the Klingons and Romulans. After a few battles I'm sure the Ks and Rs could get their hands on a hyperdrive or two and EVENTUALLY adapt it to serve their purposes. So if Merc doesn't want to bring weapon power into the battle then I go with the Ks and Rs. If Merc does want to bring weapons power into it then the republic wins. Too bad I already voted for the Ks and Rs. But whenever power is brought into it It becomes an uneven match.

And with that I rest my closing statement. Good night all I look forward to more comments in the morning.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:07 PM

lol double post

Yes the stars do stretch out in the process of going to warp

and the extragalactical race Yuuzhan Vong who had far superior hyperdrives wandered out side the galaxy fdor about a thousand year - Vector Prime

Yes the Star Wars guys did try to explore outside the universe, a few small ships left never to be heard again and the main project was called Outbound Flight. Just google that to find out about it.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:13 PM

Outside the galaxy, not universe. :P

Anyway, I'm sure Solo could do it. Him & the Falcon would be good Galaxy jumpers. HA! That sounds like it would make one hell of a story!

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:23 PM

From what I found, "Outbound Flight" was only to the extreme far reaches of the galaxy, but no galaxy hopping (like to other galaxies).





Speaking of which, it's so weird how neither Wars nor Trek go OUTSIDE their own galaxy. Both shows seems to be localized to their own home galaxy. The only exception I can think of is when Picard & the Enterprise-D traveled like 5 million lightyears to an alternate Galaxy (because of that alien traveler). But otherwise, it's completely unheard of.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:42 AM

I know in Star Trek thats their a galactic barrier that prevents ships from going in and out of the Galaxy. The only exeptions are when the Kelvans came (TOS: By Any Other Name) and when they got halfway through but were forced to give up. That experiment resulted in two crew members getting ESP and going crazy. Their are a few other cases. In the Captain's Glory series, the barrier breaks down and dark matter entities invade. The ship that first reported these aliens was a Federation ship loaded with a Borg Transwarp conduit. If you can think of any other exeptions, please let me know.

Outbound's flight mission was:
"an expeditionary project that sent a mission of six Jedi Masters, twelve Jedi Knights and 50,000 men, women and children beyond the borders of the Galactic Republic into the Unknown Regions where they hoped to pierce the edge of the galaxy and seek out extragalactic life."- Wookiepedia.org
It was planned to both explore the deep unknown reaches of the Galaxy and then to go into the distance between Galaxies. That mission would likley span 5,000 years if not more to go to one Galaxy. Read my comment about the YV. They had better hyperdrives than the Star Wars people.
Anyways, any ship that has gone beyond the galaxy was never heard from again. While Han and Chewy are great (and they are awesome) they would likely become the lost, because they ran out of feul in the Falcon.
The distance in Galaxies is notably less so in Star Trek than in Star Wars. While in Star Trek the original enterprise would take 250 years to get to Andrommeda Galaxy. (TOS: By Any Other Name) It took the YV thousands of years to traverse the grand beyond.

Last thing, I noticed you said ISDs. Back in the Galactic Republic's time they were called Acclaimator Assault Ships (AAS) and were noticibly weaker than their succesors the ISDs.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 11:34 AM

KOTOR was a good game but even fighting the sith when the were starting and not to mintion yoda wasnt alive or he was and he was a baby any ways winners team 1 but if you added the jedi counsole winners team 2

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:22 PM

KOTOR was a good game but even fighting the sith when the were starting and not to mintion yoda wasnt alive or he was and he was a baby any ways winners team 1 but if you added the jedi counsole winners team 2

If they had Revan... Yoda, I believe, said that the Sith back then, around Revan's time, made the Masters of Yoda's time look like children... they were that good. But this is the Galactic Republic which is far after Revan's time and so, he's most definitely dead by this point.

And it was thousands of years ago... Yoda was 900 plus years old when he died... he wasn't alive in that time period. They did have Master Vandoor or something like that in that time period... same member of Yoda's race.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:27 PM

This battle is about the Grand Republic between episodes 2-3 not about the KOTOR age republic.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:44 PM

This battle is about the Grand Republic between episodes 2-3 not about the KOTOR age republic.

Yeah... wait, was that in response to me or Crazy Kid?

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 12:50 PM

Just to clear things up, Tech levels are close to equal even though some may be slightly superior, tech arguement get old.

The Romulans and Klingons are from the 23rd century "Kirks era"

The Republic is during the clone wars Episodes II-III

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 03:37 PM

It was in response to crzykdd and Now that Mercs cleared it up I can officially go with The Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire to win




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