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#81 ricrery

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:55 PM

He says ''I don't know if I could've won''. Not ''I don't want to provoke him''.


Well, if he did provoke him, then he'd have to fight Super Buu, and that would be bad. Normal Gotenks > SSJ1 Goku. SSJ1 Gotenks > SSJ2 Goku. SSJ2 Gotenks (never appeared) > SSJ3 Goku. SSJ3 Gotenks was just barely above Super Buu.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:01 PM

Well, if he did provoke him, then he'd have to fight Super Buu, and that would be bad. Normal Gotenks > SSJ1 Goku. SSJ1 Gotenks > SSJ2 Goku. SSJ2 Gotenks (never appeared) > SSJ3 Goku. SSJ3 Gotenks was just barely above Super Buu.


Huh ? He was enjoying the fight. He started getting pissed of against goku in episdoe 246 when he literally couldn't lay a finger on him. Even blowing steam. It made no difference. Fat Buu was just utterly outclassed. Kid Buu wasn't.

And I've already explained why ssj3 gotenks is not important. You ignored it. Wonder why.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:22 PM

Problem... I didn't post that and it wont let me edit....

Imma change my pass...

Mh. Hacker alert. Thank god my password's SuperMonkey. :)

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:29 PM

I never said you said Slightly. I said Slightly. Ah, if he's FAR weaker than how the hell did he managed to give Buu a hard time? Oh, and Fat Buu matched SS3 Goku.... where Goku proceeded to beat on Buu successfully.


That was Fat Buu not just Kid Buu.

@Nippers and Jaeger

This will hopefully answer both questions.

When the people were taken from Super Buu's body, Fat Buu was taken (excluding Evil Buu) Good Buu still had the Kai's potential in him which is what gave him the extra strength to fight Kid buu. since All the good was taken out and Evil Buu remained, the powerfull Buu reverted to his original state.

SSJ3 Goku only fought on par to save energy so he didn't have to go back the other world. That is why he didn't want to provoke him.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:33 PM

Huh ? He was enjoying the fight. He started getting pissed of against goku in episdoe 246 when he literally couldn't lay a finger on him. Even blowing steam. It made no difference. Fat Buu was just utterly outclassed. Kid Buu wasn't.

And I've already explained why ssj3 gotenks is not important. You ignored it. Wonder why.


I also wondered that.

I also wonder how he is getting Gotenks power like that because it doesnt even make reference in Akira Toriyama's big book of DBZ...

Are we on the same page nippers? :)

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:34 PM

Huh ? He was enjoying the fight. He started getting pissed of against goku in episdoe 246 when he literally couldn't lay a finger on him. Even blowing steam. It made no difference. Fat Buu was just utterly outclassed. Kid Buu wasn't.


You have no idea what suppression is, do you? If had actually pissed him off hard enough, Goku would have to fight Super Buu, and then he'd be killed and never return to the plain of physical existence.

And I've already explained why ssj3 gotenks is not important. You ignored it. Wonder why.


SSJ3 Gotenks is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:37 PM

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:38 PM

That was Fat Buu not just Kid Buu.

@Nippers and Jaeger

This will hopefully answer both questions.

When the people were taken from Super Buu's body, Fat Buu was taken (excluding Evil Buu) Good Buu still had the Kai's potential in him which is what gave him the extra strength to fight Kid buu. since All the good was taken out and Evil Buu remained, the powerfull Buu reverted to his original state.

SSJ3 Goku only fought on par to save energy so he didn't have to go back the other world. That is why he didn't want to provoke him.


He says he didn't do it as he wanted to let goten and trunks have a go. It was their world, not his. And he wasn't aware of the time being leaked away when he went ssj3. That's why he was so shocked when Baba told him.

The reason I say kid is the best is simply because 5 million years earlier, when he was born, he would have been outclassed by a super saiyan.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:40 PM

I also wondered that.

I also wonder how he is getting Gotenks power like that because it doesnt even make reference in Akira Toriyama's big book of DBZ...

Are we on the same page nippers? :)


Nah, that's just what I've seen. It seems pretty obvious to me. Based on all the factors I wrote. I'm not saying it's fact, just a possible explanation. Gotenks ssj3 should have been way stronger than he was, but he was surprisingly weak.


If we both agree kid buu wins, then we are indeed on the same page

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:44 PM

You have no idea what suppression is, do you? If had actually pissed him off hard enough, Goku would have to fight Super Buu, and then he'd be killed and never return to the plain of physical existence.

First off, avoid the sarcasm. You don't know enough about the topic at hand. Secondly your wrong for the previous reason. Thirdly, to destroy your wrong analogy even more, he wouldn't be fighting super buu, he'd be fighting evil thin buu - who he'd beat. Not that he would fight him at all as what you're suggesting would never happen.


SSJ3 Gotenks is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.


Nice argument.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:45 PM

First off, avoid the sarcasm. You don't know enough about the topic at hand. Secondly your wrong for the previous reason. Thirdly, to destroy your wrong analogy even more, he wouldn't be fighting super buu, he'd be fighting evil thin buu - who he'd beat. Not that he would fight him at all as what you're suggesting would never happen.




Nice argument.

PIE!

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:56 PM

First off, avoid the sarcasm. You don't know enough about the topic at hand. Secondly your wrong for the previous reason. Thirdly, to destroy your wrong analogy even more, he wouldn't be fighting super buu, he'd be fighting evil thin buu - who he'd beat. Not that he would fight him at all as what you're suggesting would never happen.


Really? I know more about physics than you ever could. Oh *vulgarity*, you have no idea what indestructibility is nor what immortality is. I wasn't even talking about Super Buu or Evil Buu, maybe if you know what metaphor meant you'd understand that. Unsuppressed Fat Buu = Super Buu, therefor he would be fighting SUPER BUU.

Nice argument.


Better than your "ALL FINAL ENEMIES MUST BE STRONGEST!".

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 07:59 PM

Really? I know more about physics than you ever could. Oh *vulgarity*, you have no idea what indestructibility is nor what immortality is. I wasn't even talking about Super Buu or Evil Buu, maybe if you know what metaphor meant you'd understand that. Unsuppressed Fat Buu = Super Buu, therefor he would be fighting SUPER BUU.



Better than your "ALL FINAL ENEMIES MUST BE STRONGEST!".

*Screams PIE*

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:00 PM

*Screams PIE*


Pie should go to hell!

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:00 PM

Pie should go to hell!

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:06 PM

Really? I know more about physics than you ever could. Oh *vulgarity*, you have no idea what indestructibility is nor what immortality is. I wasn't even talking about Super Buu or Evil Buu, maybe if you know what metaphor meant you'd understand that. Unsuppressed Fat Buu = Super Buu, therefor he would be fighting SUPER BUU.


Yes, wikipedia is amazing. But both wikipedia and DBZ (WHICH IS WHAT I WAS ON ABOUT) wikia will only get you so far.
Pretty sure you WERE talking about that, just you forget about evil thin buu.
But on the other hand, let's say you were using a metaphor. Let's say he gets so angry he's as strong as super buu. It would be a case of.......o wait no. It was the fusion of the bad entity absorbing the good that gave birth to super buu. So majin buu wouldn't really get anywhere near as strong as super buu because, he needs to get angry enough in the first place for the evil to manifest. And were does that evil come from in the end........Kid Buu.

Better than your "ALL FINAL ENEMIES MUST BE STRONGEST!".


Buu with gohan absorbed - stronger than kid buu
Super Buu with gotenks absorbed - as strong as or stronger than kid buu.

How embarrassing for you.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:11 PM

Yes, wikipedia is amazing. But both wikipedia and DBZ (WHICH IS WHAT I WAS ON ABOUT) wikia will only get you so far.
Pretty sure you WERE talking about that, just you forget about evil thin buu.
But on the other hand, let's say you were using a metaphor. Let's say he gets so angry he's as strong as super buu. It would be a case of.......o wait no. It was the fusion of the bad entity absorbing the good that gave birth to super buu. So majin buu wouldn't really get anywhere near as strong as super buu because, he needs to get angry enough in the first place for the evil to manifest. And were does that evil come from in the end........Kid Buu.



Buu with gohan absorbed - stronger than kid buu
Super Buu with gotenks absorbed - as strong as or stronger than kid buu.

How embarrassing for you.

Not to sound like an ass but when you said avoid the sarcasm, you're doing it now.... hypocrite? :)

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:14 PM

Not to sound like an ass but when you said avoid the sarcasm, you're doing it now.... hypocrite? :)


HAHA!! True. You should have just written hypocrite.

On a serious note though......I actually know what I'm on about, so I can afford to be.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:15 PM

Yes, wikipedia is amazing. But both wikipedia and DBZ (WHICH IS WHAT I WAS ON ABOUT) wikia will only get you so far.
Pretty sure you WERE talking about that, just you forget about evil thin buu.
But on the other hand, let's say you were using a metaphor. Let's say he gets so angry he's as strong as super buu. It would be a case of.......o wait no. It was the fusion of the bad entity absorbing the good that gave birth to super buu. So majin buu wouldn't really get anywhere near as strong as super buu because, he needs to get angry enough in the first place for the evil to manifest. And were does that evil come from in the end........Kid Buu.


Right... the only reason Evil Buu came was because Good Buu had stopped being evil, and the Evil Buu was expelled from him. Here, he'll be PISSED off. Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.

Buu with gohan absorbed - stronger than kid buu


Actually *far stronger than Kid Buu*

Super Buu with gotenks absorbed - as strong as or stronger than kid buu.


Do you know SHIT? Mystic Gohan is CONFIRMED to be the strongest non fusion/absorption character on DBZ, and Buutenks was stronger than him.

How embarrassing for you.


What is embarrassing is the fact you ignore the fact Gotenks is above Goku, oh, and you wank of DBZ.

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 08:28 PM

HAHA!! True. You should have just written hypocrite.

On a serious note though......I actually know what I'm on about, so I can afford to be.

Heh.




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