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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:44 PM

Look at it from my perspective okay. OKAY?!?!?!

Fat Buu + Good Buu + evil Buu right? Reverse the order of that equation, what do you get? Super Buu. Makes sense to me. See that from my perspective. its like the commutative property, you can change the order and still get the same result, only this time in the terms of power levels, not appearance. See the even so more from my perspective.

Okay, on to Kid Buu.

Like you said, Kid buu gets stronger as he fights, (Which I think he ripped off of Broly but whatever...), so initially, he would be at his base power level, right? This would mean that since Fat and Super Buu have higher power levels (Absorbed Kais, Etc.) and Kid Buu is just the base form, before all that absorbing, they could potentially kill him before he gets strong enough to decimate them. Ditto what I said perspective.


I disagree. Super Buu = evil buu (and his energy) + the raw power of fat buu. Super Buu was the result of the evil taking over. Had fat Buu won, the result wouldn't have been the same, as the passive nature of the kais (and the kais only it would appear) have negative effects on his power.

They only had higher power levels than him 5 million years ago. As I stated earlier he seemed to magically imprint the strength of his counterparts into himself. Otherwise, he wouldn't have even been able to go toe to toe with ssj 2 goku.

That's what I mean. There are essentially two kid buus. The one who was weaker than a regular ssj - 5 million years ago. And the one who can batter a ssj3 5 million years later.

So there still hasn't been any evidence that they start off with a higher power level than him. And he has just too much to put on the table. He clearly doesn't run out of energy........ever. Fat Buu clearly did. Not sure about super buu. He also has the best regeneration out of them it would seem.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:48 PM

Last I checked, Fat Buu gave SS3 Goku a hard time. SS3 Goku was going toe to toe with Kid Buu...

And Gotenks SS3 had a hard time with Super Buu... and SS3 is at least on par with SS3 Goku.


That's the thing though. SSJ3 Goku owned fat buu. Fat buu couldn't even really hurt goku, hence the smiling in 245 when he gets hit in the face on purpose. He never did that with kid buu, and he was arguably, quite a bit stronger when he fought kid buu.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:49 PM

Kid buu>Super buu>Evil buu>Fat buu>Dabura

Who's MV?

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:50 PM

Majin Vegeta

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:51 PM

That's the thing though. SSJ3 Goku owned fat buu. Fat buu couldn't even really hurt goku, hence the smiling in 245 when he gets hit in the face on purpose. He never did that with kid buu, and he was arguably, quite a bit stronger when he fought kid buu.

Fat Buu liked him. Heh, he was like, Lets play!!!! I'm sure he didn't mind... I don't think he got mad in that fight.... but I may be wrong.

There is a Good Buu, MJ.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:54 PM

Fat Buu liked him. Heh, he was like, Lets play!!!! I'm sure he didn't mind... I don't think he got mad in that fight.... but I may be wrong.

There is a Good Buu, MJ.


Nah, he got proper pissed off in 246. He even went as far to try and suffocate him with his stomach.

MJ ?

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:56 PM

Majin Vegeta


Oh ok.
It could be a tie between MV and fat buu.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:57 PM

Oh ok.
It could be a tie between MV and fat buu.

......Majin Vegeta tried to destroy Fat Buu with a sacrificial blast that failed. Fat Buu regenerated like it was nothing to him.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:57 PM

Oh ok.
It could be a tie between MV and fat buu.


Really ? The series basically showed the exact opposite. Vegeta nearly got beaten to death. He nearly died from being sat on.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:03 PM

Really ? The series basically showed the exact opposite. Vegeta nearly got beaten to death. He nearly died from being sat on.


MV was going toe to toe with Goku. He lost because he killed himself tryiuing to defeat Fat buu. Just my opinion. In DBGT fatbuu was really weak. fat buu couldnt even take on ss3 goku like younggunna said. he didnt get beaten to death,he just did a sucide bomb like what Cell did.

All I am saying is that in a rematch MV could prabably take on Fat buu. I mean Fatbuu lost to Kidbuu and Evil buu. Even Dabura got some hits on him.

MV could prabably tie with DBGT Fat buu. I mean Fat buu has gotten soft over the series. MV is ruthless and full of rage.

That's my opinion.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:13 PM

MV was going toe to toe with Goku. He lost because he killed himself tryiuing to defeat Fat buu. Just my opinion. In DBGT fatbuu was really weak. fat buu couldnt even take on ss3 goku like younggunna said. he didnt get beaten to death,he just did a sucide bomb like what Cell did.

All I am saying is that in a rematch MV could prabably take on Fat buu. I mean Fatbuu lost to Kidbuu and Evil buu. Even Dabura got some hits on him.

MV could prabably tie with DBGT Fat buu. I mean Fat buu has gotten soft over the series. MV is ruthless and full of rage.

That's my opinion.

Uh... that made absoulutely no sense.... in DBGT, everyone is weaker. Goku got shrinked into smaller size so all it really did was concentrate his power. ;)

MV was going toe to toe with a SS2 Goku, not SS3 Goku, kinda a big difference and Majin Vegeta did notice Goku had more power than that and was hiding it.

He never fought Goku in DBGT... what you just said about the suicide bomb is exactly what MV did to Fat Buu...

Dabura got some hits in because Fat Buu likes to... play. And no, Evil Buu reversed Good Buu (There is a difference, Fat Buu does not exist anymore when there is a Evil Buu.) In reality, the reson why "Fat Buu" in DBGT seemed weaker would be that he;s not Fat Buu anymore but Good Buu....

And so, Good Buu is close to Fat Buu's level and the reson why he would still win against MV would be he'd just plunk his ass on him and regenerate from any attack...

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:18 PM

Please say that wasn't aimed at me. As I seem to be the only one using the actual anime and manga here. Not (insert buu character) ''shift - full stop'' (insert buu character).


I'm not saying anyone specific. I'm also not saying that it was like that in the beginning or it's every post, but most of the "debate" has deteriorated into bickering.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:18 PM

Uh... that made absoulutely no sense.... in DBGT, everyone is weaker. Goku got shrinked into smaller size so all it really did was concentrate his power. ;)

MV was going toe to toe with a SS2 Goku, not SS3 Goku, kinda a big difference and Majin Vegeta did notice Goku had more power than that and was hiding it.

He never fought Goku in DBGT... what you just said about the suicide bomb is exactly what MV did to Fat Buu...

Dabura got some hits in because Fat Buu likes to... play. And no, Evil Buu reversed Good Buu (There is a difference, Fat Buu does not exist anymore when there is a Evil Buu.) In reality, the reson why "Fat Buu" in DBGT seemed weaker would be that he;s not Fat Buu anymore but Good Buu....

And so, Good Buu is close to Fat Buu's level and the reson why he would still win against MV would be he'd just plunk his ass on him and regenerate from any attack...



What are you talking about I know MV didnt fight SS3 Goku. I said he was going toe to toe with Goku. I meant to say was MV would tie with Fat buu in DBGT since Fatbuu is weaker.

All I am saying is that MV could tie with Good buu/fat buu. from DBGT not DBZ.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:32 PM

What are you talking about I know MV didnt fight SS3 Goku. I said he was going toe to toe with Goku. I meant to say was MV would tie with Fat buu in DBGT since Fatbuu is weaker.

All I am saying is that MV could tie with Good buu/fat buu. from DBGT not DBZ.

No, he would not tie with anyone from DBGT.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:42 PM

No, he would not tie with anyone from DBGT.



I think he would tie with Fat buu from DBGT Its just my Opinion Panzer.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 09:45 PM

I think he would tie with Fat buu from DBGT Its just my Opinion Panzer.

OPINIONS SUCK!

No, heh, I understand, lol. Kay then. Any more?

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 10:00 PM

OPINIONS SUCK!

No, heh, I understand, lol. Kay then. Any more?

LOL.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 01:28 PM

Fat Buu liked him. Heh, he was like, Lets play!!!! I'm sure he didn't mind... I don't think he got mad in that fight.... but I may be wrong.

There is a Good Buu, MJ.

ok you have to understand, fat buu, good buu, majin buu... all the same guy.

fat buu is kid buu with daikao absorbed.
evil buu is the embodiment of evil within majin buu.
super buu is the result of the fusion or ABSORPTION of majin buu by evil buu.

it is possible that if majin buu had won and absorbed evil buu, he would have reached the same level of power, but im pretty sure he wouldnt have resulted in the same sort of form.
super buu is also not fat buu unsuppressed, he is a fusion, thats what the entire saga was about, FUSION.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:14 PM

ok you have to understand, fat buu, good buu, majin buu... all the same guy.

fat buu is kid buu with daikao absorbed.
evil buu is the embodiment of evil within majin buu.
super buu is the result of the fusion or ABSORPTION of majin buu by evil buu.

it is possible that if majin buu had won and absorbed evil buu, he would have reached the same level of power, but im pretty sure he wouldnt have resulted in the same sort of form.
super buu is also not fat buu unsuppressed, he is a fusion, thats what the entire saga was about, FUSION.

No shit, I know they're all the same thing, I'm talking about the incarnations, THE INCARNATIONS: Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Good Buu, Evil Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Buu, and Fusion Buu. Thir Base Form is.... Kid Buu. I said this a numerous times in this thread... And actually, its not really true if you consider Good Buu and Kid Buu actually existing at once... Good Buu's true name is Mr. Buu. :D

No, Fat Buu is Kid Buu with Daikaoh AND the Southern Supreme Kai absorbed.

It was him entirely and then Hercule helped him turn a new leaf over and thus it was expelled in a fit of rage...

Super Buu is the opposite of Fat Buu. Good Buu had control of Evil Buu inside until he expelled it and lost power and got owned by his evil version and thus Super Buu was born.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:34 PM

No shit, I know they're all the same thing, I'm talking about the incarnations, THE INCARNATIONS: Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Good Buu, Evil Buu, Super Buu, Mystic Buu, and Fusion Buu. Thir Base Form is.... Kid Buu. I said this a numerous times in this thread... And actually, its not really true if you consider Good Buu and Kid Buu actually existing at once... Good Buu's true name is Mr. Buu. :D

No, Fat Buu is Kid Buu with Daikaoh AND the Southern Supreme Kai absorbed.

It was him entirely and then Hercule helped him turn a new leaf over and thus it was expelled in a fit of rage...

Super Buu is the opposite of Fat Buu. Good Buu had control of Evil Buu inside until he expelled it and lost power and got owned by his evil version and thus Super Buu was born.


I disagree. I don't think fat buu is the opposite of super buu. He wasn't a fusion of good and evil with the good overcoming. He was the result of an evil being being cleansed and weakened. He wasn't pure enough to be the opposite of super buu, he relied on evil energy. Super buu didn't really rely on good energy at all, only in fleeting moments.

Also, why do you think he loses energy once Thin buu is expelled ?




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