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#1 Diskyr

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 04:15 PM

Which Force will turn out victor in this cosmic collision course?

The Unstoppable Force: A force that cannot be stopped, is impossible to be stopped, and will never stop unless the force itself wills itself to.

The Immovable Object: An object that is impossible to move, even from Jesus, Chuck Norris, Dr. Manhattan, Big G, TOAA, and other like them. Nothing will or has ever moved it.

So which force will be victor? Will the Unstoppable force move the Immovable Object, even just 1 inch? Or Will the Immovable object stop the Unstoppable force dead in its tracks?

There Can be NO TIES AT ALL

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 04:27 PM

I think that this rally epends on what the two forces qctually consist of, like a good example would be Juggernaut and WWH, WWH was doing well in stopping Juggs but even tually Juggs began to move him.
The unstoppable force will always be putting on pressure on the immovable force, which will eventually weaken and it will be moved, eventually even though it could take years or even more, it will still be moved.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 04:42 PM

Depending on the makeup of said force and object the Immovable object could deflect the Unstoppable force without moving. So I guess in the right conditions the immovable object wins without stopping the Unstoppable force.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:12 PM

LOL, this is actually something I did a paper on when I did philosophy at school years ago!

The solution unfortunately is a tie.... but the true answer is that they switch places. The Unstoppable Force will Stop and the Unmovable Object will move. If you play pool/billiards (whatever you call the game) then you will see this often. One ball will hit the other and stop dead in it's tracks whilst the other takes off to whichever hole you hoped it would.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 09:36 PM

But how would they switch places? How would the unstoppable force move the immovable object?

Remember, there can be no TIE at all.

Also, it's impossible for the unstoppable force to stop or the immovable object to move. Not even God or your frail grandma can move or stop these two forces.

But there can be no tie too.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 04:45 AM

Their existence is paradox.

If there is an unstoppable object, then it is impossible for there to be an immovable one, and vice versa.

Everything explodes due to this paradox.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:12 PM

LOL, this is actually something I did a paper on when I did philosophy at school years ago!

The solution unfortunately is a tie.... but the true answer is that they switch places. The Unstoppable Force will Stop and the Unmovable Object will move. If you play pool/billiards (whatever you call the game) then you will see this often. One ball will hit the other and stop dead in it's tracks whilst the other takes off to whichever hole you hoped it would.


This really is the most logical conclusion... <_<

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 02:50 PM

This really is the most logical conclusion... <_<

There's one other solution, I think...

The immovible object has to be anchored to something, perhaps the universe itself. When met by the unstoppable force the IO drags it's station (universe, reality, whatever) with it, technically retaining it's point in space without actually stopping the UF. In this case I would give the UF the win since the IO's anchor point failed.

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 11:14 PM

LOL, this is actually something I did a paper on when I did philosophy at school years ago!

The solution unfortunately is a tie.... but the true answer is that they switch places. The Unstoppable Force will Stop and the Unmovable Object will move. If you play pool/billiards (whatever you call the game) then you will see this often. One ball will hit the other and stop dead in it's tracks whilst the other takes off to whichever hole you hoped it would.


This conclusion is not logical. If the objects are respectively immovable and unstoppable, WHY would the former move and the latter stop? Pool is a poor analogy, because balls are not unstoppable or immovable.

My point is, if those two objects switch functions, as you say, then they were, in fact, not immovable or unstoppable, making the point moot.

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 03:07 PM

An unstoppable vs an Unmovable object.

Big freakin' explosions.

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 10:20 PM

This conclusion is not logical. If the objects are respectively immovable and unstoppable, WHY would the former move and the latter stop? Pool is a poor analogy, because balls are not unstoppable or immovable.

My point is, if those two objects switch functions, as you say, then they were, in fact, not immovable or unstoppable, making the point moot.


It's just a theory...Unless you go XenoD's way, and say that the fabric of time, space, and reality would explode...

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 12:31 AM

Simple. The Unstoppable Force goes through the Immovable Object. The atoms of the Force simply don't touch those of the Object, the Object remains where it was, and the Force moves on unimpeded.

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 12:52 AM

Upon impact there would be an explosion bigger than that of the Big Bang. It would rip a hole in the very space/time continuum whipping out all excistence within an attosecond.

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 06:13 PM

Simple. The Unstoppable Force goes through the Immovable Object. The atoms of the Force simply don't touch those of the Object, the Object remains where it was, and the Force moves on unimpeded.


AFAIK forces aren't made out of atoms. (Electromagnetic, nuclear, and gravitational)

I agree with boston_celtics, the entire match is broken. Diskyr made the match completely meaningless by stating:
"Also, it's impossible for the unstoppable force to stop or the immovable object to move."

But there can be no tie too."

The question is neither a deep philosophical one, nor is it a paradox that requires some genius idea to solve. Diskyr may as well have asked us:
"Una qiwma gunkeo?" the effect would have been the same, meaningless words.

On the other hand, this debate is an interesting look (at least for me) to religious ideas (both the Unstoppable Force and Unmovable Object have strong religious implications to me) and how people attempt to give meaning to what are essentialy meaningless, contradictory noise.

Or Diskyr wanted to know how many people would bother responding to something he (or she?) knew was meangingless, effectively trolling us.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 07:34 PM

It immovable not indestructible object. Unstoppable Force blows it to bits.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 08:29 AM

Mu. An unstoppable force and an immovable object are incompossible.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 01:42 AM

UF+IO=Big *vulgarity*ing Boom!

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 09:42 PM

You could have done Juggernaut vs Blob. That would have made more sense.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 10:13 PM

whipping out all excistence within an attosecond.



But but but...I don't want to be whipped. Also, there is no such time measurement as an attosecond, nor is there such a thing as an excistence.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 10:21 PM

Couple of points to make:
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Blob is not immovable...

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Juggernaut is not unstoppable...

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and this whole match is a paradox well explained by Mr. Celtics...

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