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#21 MarvelFan15

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:49 PM

They are several times faster than light and time slows as you near light speed if you were to go as fast as the Z fighters it would be as if you were outside of time itself.


Actually, I'd think you'd go into the past.

Sorry, Marvy, but it doesn't work that way. First off, Kid Buu doesn't go for the absorb unless he's facing someone with godlike ki, which Doomsday doesn't have. Second, those "time restraints" are only when they gather tremendous amounts of power. Buu would still need to gather power to have enough to take this team, and he would still have to wait to do so.


Doomsday does, however, have godlike strength, endurance, and durability, all in one package. A tempting opportunity for Buu.

Also, Buu pretty much always has his power ready when he needs it. The only time he "gathers" power, from what I've seen, is when he's pouring his reserves into a ki blast, not his own body.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:49 PM

Seriously when has light become faster then time it self? Okay, How about a lightyear the distance light travels in a year? So it takes light a year to travel that far so light is still bound by time. also has any of the Z-fighters traveled back in time from moving so fast? Has any of the Z-fighters ever shown to be moving at such a speed that time stops around them? Next part prove it....But that would be contradicting a certain statement in your posts on Skirm's side.

I haven't contadicted anything. Gogeta (At least the Version we're using is a no nonsense character who uses instanstansmission which is actually instant to demolish your team)

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:50 PM

You don't have to worry about fusion Ultimecia can junction people together a far more pure form of fusing.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:52 PM

Because the Z fighters have never faced someone who can freeze time before...oh, wait...


Grr...A youtube link. I've read this battle in the manga, but haven't seen it in the show. I have a dial-up connection...so, yeah.

Can someone please explain what happens in that link to me?

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:54 PM

Can someone please explain what happens in that link to me?

Guldo gets pwned.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:54 PM

I haven't contadicted anything. Gogeta (At least the Version we're using is a no nonsense character who uses instanstansmission which is actually instant to demolish your team)

Do math and figure out how fast he can go at max and then I'll counter you.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:57 PM

Guldo gets pwned.

That was more warp then stop and Ultimecia can do so much more then stop time she crunched all time and reality together to make a single moment that moves at less then a nano seconds worth of time. Also when came back to life after absorbing all time she tears down reality from the power of her entrance.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:59 PM

Guldo gets pwned.


I was hoping for a steb-by-step analysis of the fight...but, whatever.

Also, if I remember correctly, Guldo can only stop time for as long as he can hold his breath...or something.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:59 PM

Also for the machine it was used to enhace her mental powers and posess people through time not stop it.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:00 PM

I was hoping for a steb-by-step analysis of the fight...but, whatever.

Also, if I remember correctly, Guldo can only stop time for as long as he can hold his breath...or something.

You would be correct.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:03 PM

You would be correct.

Ultimecia is not bound by that. Also where is that math I asked for?

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:08 PM

Ultimecia is not bound by that.

I'm awere but I'm also awhere that ime is relitive.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:12 PM

I'm awere but I'm also awhere that ime is relitive.

Not getting you.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:16 PM

Also when has anyone in Dragon ball ever bust anything bigger then a galaxy and don't say Omega shenron cause there is a diffrence between killing all life and actually busting it.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:19 PM

Also even if Gogeta can move faster then time he wouldn't be able to do anything because for anything to happen time has to be there so everytime he tries to go faster then time he stops instantly because he can't do anything including move.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:27 PM

Also when Guldo warped time did anyone move? NO.

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 01:17 AM

Meh, I geuss I'll just lie back and relax...
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Posted 13 December 2009 - 01:41 AM

Let's get one thing straight. I have yet to see any proof that Ultimecia can stop time. She can go back through time (via a machine), but that takes time itself. She is not time itself, as you'd like to point out. She is a Sorceress, who uses a time machine. Doom has a time machine, but that hasn't helped him take over the Earth. She is capable of sending her mind back through time and mind control, not stopping time. She can pull the fight into the time stream with her, but again...I haven't seen stop time. That's Jo Jo's department. I say prove it.

Also, there is no abomination to pull from Gogeta's brain. His arrogance wouldn't allow for him to believe anything is more powerful than him.

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 01:48 AM

Let's get one thing straight. I have yet to see any proof that Ultimecia can stop time. She can go back through time (via a machine), but that takes time itself. She is not time itself, as you'd like to point out. She is a Sorceress, who uses a time machine. Doom has a time machine, but that hasn't helped him take over the Earth. She is capable of sending her mind back through time and mind control, not stopping time. She can pull the fight into the time stream with her, but again...I haven't seen stop time. That's Jo Jo's department. I say prove it.

Also, there is no abomination to pull from Gogeta's brain. His arrogance wouldn't allow for him to believe anything is more powerful than him.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

the machine is used to enhace her telepathy to control minds she doesn't use that to travel back in time.

He doesn't have to know it exsists it's all he would deny his arrogance would just fuel whatever pops out powers.

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 01:53 AM

I'm assuming that shows her stopping time. If so, good job. Anyway, not my battle. She still gets beat by Squall a lot. Squall. :angry:




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