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#1 sirmethos

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:34 AM

Pre-Flashpoint and Pre-Superior(-.-)

 

Random encounter in New York.



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:35 AM

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:33 PM

Why?



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

he is faster stronger has better range attacks.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 10:49 AM

he is faster stronger has better range attacks.

 

Faster: Not really, no.  As a baseline, Spider-Man is faster, but Midnighter is capable of moving considerably faster than Spider-Man in bursts.

 

Stronger: Again, not really.  Spider-Man has shown better examples of pure lifting strength, but Midnighter has better examples of striking power.

 

Better range of attacks: True, but Spider-Man's webbing won't really do much of a difference, since it moves so slowly that Midnighter can easily avoid it.

 

 

If you take away the Spider-Sense and the Battle Computer, Midnighter is a pretty clear winner.

 

A fight between these two, comes down to those two 'abilities', which is why I made the match in the first place.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:41 PM

Just wanted to say something while the site is still up.

 

I'm sure striking power wise Spiderman would be stronger if he didn't hold back which he does. Strength level Spiderman is completely superior and Midnighter's striking power doesn't put him on his level strength wise. Midnighter isn't exactly faster then Spiderman and maybe in his world superhumans can't see him in his short bursts. But Spiderman has tagged or avoided Quicksilver more then once for example. Being that in this fight Spiderman has his spider sense he will know beforehand when Midnighter will attack him so he doesn't need to see him coming. Also keep in mind in Spiderman's Kung Fu training, Horizon upgrades he makes to his costumes (Who knows which one he could be wearing in a random encounter) , his equipment, and superhuman abilities makes him a hard opponent for Midnighter to beat. Spiderman with his genius intellect and his ability through experience to find the flaw in his opponent during a battle would realize Midnighter after a while knows his moves beforehand. Spiderman also carries on him various different webbing like freeze webbing, magnetic webbing, and acidic webbing.  He doesn't actually have to hit Midnighter with it. He could form all sorts of traps or when Midnighter comes in for close combat he could then web him up in any of the different webbing he chooses. Spiderman has higher chances of winning I think. He has many different options on how he could go about winning. Spiderman is actually pretty unpredictable so Midnighter's battle computer could have problems with him.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 06:44 PM

"I'm sure striking power wise Spiderman would be stronger if he didn't hold back which he does. Strength level Spiderman is completely superior and Midnighter's striking power doesn't put him on his level strength wise."

 

Midnighter has been shown capable of knocking Apollo-level super-humans unconscious.

 

The definitely puts his striking strength on the level of(if not above) Spider-Man.

 

"Midnighter isn't exactly faster then Spiderman and maybe in his world superhumans can't see him in his short bursts. But Spiderman has tagged or avoided Quicksilver more then once for example."

 

Quicksilver is not FTL.  In bursts, Midnighter has proven capable of moving fast enough, that even characters capable of moving FTL(with reflexes to go with that speed), couldn't see him.

 

Yes, in bursts, Midnighter is faster.  While, as I already pointed out, Spider-Man is faster as a baseline average.

 

"Spiderman has his spider sense he will know beforehand when Midnighter will attack him so he doesn't need to see him coming."

 

Due to his Battle Computer, Midnighter knows about the Spider-Sense, and that is part of the calculations from the Battle Computer.

 

"Also keep in mind in Spiderman's Kung Fu training"

 

Even without the Battle Computer, Midnighter is a highly skilled hand-to-hand fighter.

 

"Horizon upgrades he makes to his costumes (Who knows which one he could be wearing in a random encounter)"

 

On a random encounter, chance are that he would be wearing his standard costume.

 

"his equipment, and superhuman abilities makes him a hard opponent for Midnighter to beat"

 

His superhuman abilities, certainly. Namely, his Spider-Sense.  Midnighter has taken out opponents with more advanced equipment though, so it's unlikely that that will cause much trouble.

 

"Spiderman with his genius intellect and his ability through experience to find the flaw in his opponent during a battle would realize Midnighter after a while knows his moves beforehand."

 

Yea, and Midnighter knows about the Spider-Sense from the start of the fight.

 

"Spiderman also carries on him various different webbing like freeze webbing, magnetic webbing, and acidic webbing.  He doesn't actually have to hit Midnighter with it. He could form all sorts of traps or when Midnighter comes in for close combat he could then web him up in any of the different webbing he chooses."

 

Yea, except for the fact that Midnighter would already know about the traps, and would see the attempts to web him up in close combat, from a mile away.

 

"Spiderman has higher chances of winning I think. He has many different options on how he could go about winning."

 

That's nice, now you just have to back it up :)

 

"Spiderman is actually pretty unpredictable so Midnighter's battle computer could have problems with him."

 

Being "unpredictable" is pretty much useless to the Battle Computer. The single reason that the Battle Computer could have trouble with him, is the Spider-Sense(which is something I've already pointed out).



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

Spiderman has been shown to have trouble with opponents that match him in agility. He got blindsided in his fight with ezekial because he wasn't ready for an opponent that could recover and react quickly.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 12:21 AM

Why are you setting up a fight which, by your own analysis, is a stomp? I don't see the point.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 09:37 AM

I don't know anything about Midnighter, but from previous discussions on the site I had the impression that he was street level in nature. If he can react and hit on the level of someone like Superman, then what's the point of setting him up against someone like Spider-Man?

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 01:41 PM

Heh maybe to give Midnighter one final victory?






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