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Posted 18 August 2013 - 01:11 PM

I’m probably going to be hated for this, but this match needed to be made before the site goes down.

 

Superman battles all the characters from the Dragon Ball franchise.

 

Note: This is the version of Superman that is so powerful from the Original DC Universe.

 

Battle Terrain
Combat Terrain: Asgard

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(But in this match, they won’t be avoiding the Irked Guards.)

 

Who Will Win?



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 01:11 PM

Learn More About
Superman
Read more about Superman at Wikipedia
Official Site: Detective Comics Links: Superman's Wiki Profile DC Database Project: Superman DC's Superman Site

The Dragon Ball Universe
Read more about The Dragon Ball Universe at Wikipedia
Official Site: Toei Animation Links: Wikipedia Dragonball wiki DragonballZ



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 06:11 PM

"This is the version of Superman that is so powerful from the Original DC Universe."

 

Assuming from this statement, that we are talking about Silver Age Superman.  Superman wins easily.



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 09:13 PM

Hmm... do Goku and Vegeta have access to the Potara earrings in this?



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 10:51 PM

Hmm... do Goku and Vegeta have access to the Potara earrings in this?

 

Yes



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Posted 18 August 2013 - 10:52 PM

Can they wish with the balls to 1. Be immortal 2. Have have unlimited energy and 3. To wish superman to become a statue or something else. The third one being plausible as magic effects him as it would a normal person.

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 11:29 PM

Can they wish with the balls to 1. Be immortal 2. Have have unlimited energy and 3. To wish superman to become a statue or something else. The third one being plausible as magic effects him as it would a normal person.

 

If the Dragon Balls were use in this match, I would say 2: Have unlimited energy.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 03:36 AM

If the Dragonballs are used, I'd say, "give us kryptonite and a red sun, and hurry!"

 

Silver Age Superman has close to unlimited power.

 

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Okay, It's hard to say how many planets; I count a dozen but it's hard to know where the end of the string is. We don't know how big the planets are, but it's pretty impressive. And look at Superboy; he's not sweating, there's no visible tension in his muscles or expression of effort on his face. 

 

But that's not the impressive part of this feat. He's taking them to the other side of the Universe! Lord knows who he decided that was necessary with so many millions of galaxies closer at hand, but this suggests that he can travel at many millions of times the speed of light, and you know that nobody on those rescued planets is going to be harmed by the impossible forces put on their homeworlds.

 

DC may claim that silver Age Superman got his power from the energy of the yellow sun, but someone who can do this could blow out the sun like a candle.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:07 AM

What if the wish was to not be able to be killed or to make superman not be able to move, you know making a wish that is powered by magic*

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:33 AM

1)A KO is still presumably a win, so immortality won't cut it
2)The Dragon Balls can't affect a being stronger than their creator, which depending on era is Kami/Dende, both of whom are far weaker than Superman.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:08 PM

Oh really?? Well kami cannot recreate whole planets and yet they have wished earth back akin with all the planets and people buu killed. So I'm sure they can do that

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:14 PM

Earth is not a being and every single person that Buu killed is weaker than Superman as well(not to mention most of them are weaker than Kami and Dende) so you're still incorrect.

Hell, the Dragon couldn't even kill Nappa. Sorry. Try again.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

Oh really?? Well kami cannot recreate whole planets and yet they have wished earth back akin with all the planets and people buu killed. So I'm sure they can do that

Earth was wished back ala the Namek balls rather than the Earth ones.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:35 PM

But kami cannot recreate planets and or wish back millions of people, therefore this should still apply

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:49 PM

Again, the planet is not a being, and the overwhelming majority of people that got revived are weaker than Kami. What part of that do you not understand?

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 01:17 PM

It's amusing that a fan of DBZ, who supposedly know as much about the universe as Pymp, doesn't actually seem to understand how various things actually work in that universe.

 

Fact: The Dragon is only as powerful as the one that created it.  In the early series, that would be Kami. In the later series, it's Dende.   This is something that is, iirc, directly stated.

 

 

Pymp seems to be of the misconception, that being equally powerful, means being able to do the same things.  That is not the case.

 

It only means that the Dragon only has as much raw power, as the one that created it. However, by the very nature of its abilities, it is able to use that raw powers, in ways that the creators(the namekians) cannot.

 

Kami, and Dende for that matter, is incapable of bringing even a single person back from the dead(make them living again). But the Dragon is easily capable of doing just that.  That doesn't mean that the Dragon is more powerful, it just means that the Dragon can use that power in ways that are not available to the Namekians.

 

 

I'm not really sure why this seems to be a difficult concept to grasp, I think it's pretty straight-forward.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:21 PM

I get that, however if that same concept is applied to what you are saying, having someone wish for something like, making superman de-powered would not be out of the question. Or having him require oxygen or even making him old would be all legit.
I never said a planet is a being and I get the concept just fine, you guys are just assuming I don't because you don't agree.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:26 PM

Dragon can also be used to give Goku everyone's energy instantly and or allow Goku to do spirit bombs instantly as well making each shot his most powerful attack, they can wish for Goku to have unlimited speed and stamina. These are just examples

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:59 PM

Except, Goku would not do any of these. He lives so much for fair battles that he gives people far more evil than Supes senzu beans. Cell for example.

But let's say he did.

No, he can't depower Supes, just as he couldn't kill Nappa. He couldn't affect beings more powerful than his creator against their will. I cite the time they tried to bring Goku back to Earth with a wish after Namek's destruction, only for him to politely refuse. Or the aforementioned time they tried to have the Dragon kill Nappa and Vegeta on route to Earth.

Um ok, let's pretend this one works. What difference does it make? All the Z-Fighters require oxygen, so they're going to be fighting on Earth anyways. Unless you're counting on one of the villains to blow up the planet, this is moot. Unless you mean wishing for it in space? Then I would point you back to the fairness thing.

Making him old? The guy survived for thousands of years. What would this accomplish, other than making it humiliating to lose to a grandpa? And again, fairness. I must say, for a fan, you don't seem to know their personalities.

Not that this matters, cause none of the above would work anyway.

Oh yes, finally! Something the Dragon can do! Yes he can recharge their ki like that. And guess what? They can do it as much as they want, it wouldn't help. Especially since they can only do it 3 times.

Goku can throw all the Spirit Bombs he wants at Supes. As a pure good individual, Supes can catch, stop and reflect them. If he doesn't dodge of course.

His most powerful attack wouldn't faze Superman. If it even hit.

Speed and stamina. Good choices. Won't stop Goku's hand from getting injured should he decide to punch Supes. And again, fairness.

You don't seem to know much about DBZ. I am disappoint.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 04:23 PM

Superman sneezes and the Earth is gone.  The DBZers die in empty space, assuming they are not blown away by the sneeze.






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