Your correct on that but their still canon though. As far as Carnage vs Ironman I'm sorry I meant the Carnage series before Carnage U.S.A where Spiderman and Ironman took him on.
Of course they're canon, what does that have to do with anything?
Spider-Man defeating Firelord is canon as well.
So is the entire WWH arc.
So is several of Squirrel Girl's victories.
So is Black Panther putting Silver Surfer in a restraining hold.
That doesn't necessarily mean that we use those examples, when explaining or showing what the character is actually capable of, or what he/she is not capable of.
If someone makes a match called Spider-Man vs. Firelord, the only thing they're gonna get, is a bunch of comments saying how it's a stomp match in Firelord's favor, and anyone making an argument for Spider-Man, is gonna get laughed out of the thread. But Spider-Man defeating Firelord is still canon.
To repeat myself: That is why I don't like using fights that has happened in the comics, as examples of what character can or cannot do.
There are always more factors, in a fight in the comics, than the capabilities of the characters. And those factors are, as a general rule, not included in the matches here. In the matches here, there is no one who has the advantage simply because they're the hero, or primary villain, or the comic/story arc, there is no one who has an advantage because they are important to the plot, etc. etc.
Using fights from the comics, to argue in a match, is stupid. Unless you add those factors to the match as well.