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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:39 PM

1. Akuma at his weakest vs Iron Fist at his weakest.

2. Akuma at his strongest vs Iron Fist at his strongest.

3. For the winner of Match 1, which version of the loser would be able to handle the weakest version of the winner.

4. For match 2, how much stronger would the loser have to be to contend with the winner.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:39 PM

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Akuma
Read more about Akuma at Wikipedia
Official Site: Capcom comics Links: Wikipedia Street Fighter Alpha Akuma / Gouki

Iron-Fist
Read more about Iron-Fist at Wikipedia
Official Site: Marvel Entertainment Links: Wikipedia IMDb Marvel Directory



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:07 AM

Akuma at his weakest is a man who has trained in martial arts as a young kid. Daniel at his weakest was just a new york citizen.

At Akuma's strongest he is seen travelling super human speed, being able to appear underwater and destroy a submarine with a punch and an island with a punch sent into the ground.

At Danny's strongest (Not sure which series that was in I only own The Director's Cut ) http://www.comicvine...cut/4050-50791/

But I hear he took a nuke (well his chi did)  But taking a Nuke is different than taking out an island in my opinion as there is no Nuke that could destroy an island, it would just decimate the surface only.

 

Overall I say Akuma wins in all scenario's as it would boil down to the Raging Demon and if Iron-Fist can "empty" his soul. Oh and fireballs and beams will help too.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:55 PM

Actually, Danny at his weakest is someone who has trained intensely in the martial arts since he was 9 years old. That sounds like a fair match for Akuma at his weakest.

 

And Danny at his strongest can use the Iron Fist to heal, mind-link, give himself superhuman reflexes (enough to parry every flechette from Stiletto's machinegun like barrage or to speed blitz the Black Panther) and absorb/deflect energy attacls from both magican and technological sources. His iron fist is so powerful that he stopped a bullet train with one punch, and disabled the SHIELD helicarrier with one punch.

 

How big was the island? How powerful was the nuke? There are nuclear weapons that could destroy islands, it all depends on the particulars.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:49 PM

Good input did not know about Danny was trained since 9 in that case it would be two normal guys that know martial arts
It'd be even for the most part

The nuke was stated to be big but there is only heresay as to how powerful it was. Either way a nuke is a nuke and even a little one is powerful. But the island was I would assume to be the size of one of the smaller ones in Hawaii

The submarine he destroyed was a normal sized one and he did it in one punch. Mind you Akuma was underwater and still moved super fast.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 06:49 PM

...the point of Danny being able to withstand the nuke was due to the fact said nuke outclassed the bomb dropped on Hiroshima by far to the extent it made it look like a sparkler in comparison. That to me suggests that level of firepower could destroy a small island (which was what Akuma destroyed) and that Danny could tank that >.>



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:47 PM

No nuke can fully destroy an island, only it's surface, akuma destroyed an island where Ryu was swimming after, but the island was small, just not sure how small.

I think Akuma has travel speed superiority, but defense seems like Sanny has it so its a battle of who will last who and if Danny can learn to empty his soul having never to do it!

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:46 AM

No nuke can fully destroy an island, only it's surface, akuma destroyed an island where Ryu was swimming after, but the island was small, just not sure how small.

I think Akuma has travel speed superiority, but defense seems like Sanny has it so its a battle of who will last who and if Danny can learn to empty his soul having never to do it!

My mistake - found the image scan. Context given by others were that it was a nuke but unsure as of now - it was simply explosives.

 

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Also the Marvel Wikia is very deceiving - Danny is actually a lot more capable. I'm trying to find scans of his speed. >.>



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

I'm sure Danny's speed is excellent, but he doesn't teleport like Akuma does, so I'm saying Danny is the slower of the two

Danny has the iron fist which are like hadokens tied down to his hands, so Akuma has to be careful not to get tagged, but he has powerful tornado attacks and long range weapons.

It's a good fight either way

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:43 PM

Teleportation does not equate to actual physical speed - Danny has high end bullet dodgings/capturings of the casual spectrum that I'd think he'd be able to react to the teleports.

 

The Iron Fist outclasses a Hadouken really.

 

IMHO, its more in Danny's favor than Akuma's.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:34 PM

Not when Akuma teleports constantly, the hadoken is just as devastating. Remember Akuma uses only one hand and he is still able to use his raging demon

Being quick is not being fast by the way

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:51 PM

Teleportation compared to speed, in a fight, is like putting Nightcrawler or Vanisher against Quicksilver.

 

Speed wins.

 

No to mention that Danny at his strongest, easily has the defensive capabilities to take anything Akuma can throw at him, and the offensive capabilities to kill him in a matter of seconds.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 04:31 PM

Not when Akuma teleports constantly, the hadoken is just as devastating. Remember Akuma uses only one hand and he is still able to use his raging demon
 

Being quick is not being fast by the way

 

I love how we go around and around over the same topics as before in the past and you're shown wrong several times yet you keep going bout the same things. -.-

 

The Hadouken isn't as devastating as Danny's repertoire. How do I know? I'm aware of both characters whereas you're seemingly unawares of Danny's capabilities. -.- There's a technique Danny has that would kill Akuma near instantly should he come in close proximity. Which would leave Akuma with ranged attacks... which Danny can easily avoid.

 

And Danny's reflexes are easily more than sufficient to counteract Akuma's teleportations... and that's not even going into his speed. He's been shown capable of keeping up with superspeedsters in the past aside his reflexes. :)



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:15 PM

...the point of Danny being able to withstand the nuke was due to the fact said nuke outclassed the bomb dropped on Hiroshima by far to the extent it made it look like a sparkler in comparison. That to me suggests that level of firepower could destroy a small island (which was what Akuma destroyed) and that Danny could tank that >.>

What is the exact quote?



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:20 PM

My mistake - found the image scan. Context given by others were that it was a nuke but unsure as of now - it was simply explosives.

With nuclear level force, so what's the difference? The exact quote was "enough explosives to make the Hiroshima look like a sparkler".



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:28 PM

That it's not exactly a nuke, just a myriad of explosives that collectively had a yield superior to a nuke (i.e. Hiroshima's). That's the difference I was clarifying.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:28 PM

No nuke can fully destroy an island, only it's surface, akuma destroyed an island where Ryu was swimming after, but the island was small, just not sure how small.

I think Akuma has travel speed superiority, but defense seems like Sanny has it so its a battle of who will last who and if Danny can learn to empty his soul having never to do it!

Untrue. The a-bombs dropped on the Bikini atoll did not destroy it, but that was a small test. If you examine the craters left by larger test sites, you'll see that they're impressive. A blast that could create a large crater could destroy enough of a small island to make it vanish below the sea level. A thermonuclear blast generates something like a million degrees and it only takes several thousand to melt solid rock or coral. The a coral island would also be vulnerable to being shattered by the blast wave.

 

Again, without knowing the size of the island or the strength of the bomb all of this is guesswork. Without more specifics all we can say is that both characters hit really hard.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:45 PM

I've never seen Akuma do anything on a par with Iron Fist myself, in terms of speed or destructive force, at least. They are both highly skilled, though, and i'm not sure who'd win in a fight without powers.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:28 PM

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:33 PM

Those are some scans I found which should help. The first one is the second part to the one Jaeger posted. The last two are from when the Avengers battled Osborn's new Dark Avengers. It's the Thor Clone in the scan.






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