Funny, that's what I always thought about you.
Very well, then please give some examples of where I've said something that was factually wrong, rather than merely a difference in opinion.
Since in this particular case, I will be showing that I do know what I'm talking about when I claim that Sabretooth isn't stupid, nor incapable of taking a stealthy approach, whereas you thus far haven't done anything other than showcasing your rather blatant ignorance in regards to the same.
I don't get your point.
Okay, so reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points either, I'll rephrase slightly, and hopefully you'll be able to grasp the point.
"I will include a scan, which shows Sabretooth messing around with Wolverine, rather than taking the direct approach, to show the fact that he is capable of taking a stealthy approach."
I hope that this rephrasing wasn't too complicated for you to understand, but if you still don't get the point, I don't mind rephrasing it again.
Is he intelligent because he shoved Wasabi up Wolverine's nose, when he has extensive knowledge and experience with how Wolverine's sense of smell works? Awesome, that puts him at... The stupidest person here.
No, the scans weren't about his intelligence, they were about Sabretooth being stealthy and drawing wolverine out, rather than simply engaging him directly.
Since you apparently didn't look at anything beyond the first scan, I'll summarize.
Sabretooth puts Wasabi up Wolverines nose to prevent him from finding Kitty Pryde and Mariko, then retreats. He then goes on to utilize a ninja-suit, along with several puppets, in order to draw Wolverine to the place of his choice, where upon he engages him.
If he was as prone to a direct assault as you claimed, he would have simply engaged Wolverine in combat from the beginning, but he didn't.
Another example of the same, is when he escapes from the X-mansion, and rather than directly confront Bishop, he hides and waits in an ambush.
Yet another example of the same is when he ambushes and defeats the X-factor team one by one, rather than simply engaging them directly.
So, to summarize, in the first scan I showed, we've seen Sabretooth utilizing stealth to draw wolverine to a predetermined spot. In the second, he's using stealth to ambush Bishop, and in the third he's using stealth to defeat the X-factor.
All of these goes rather contrary to your claim of Sabretooth not using stealth.
He's an idiot, that very comic arc you're referencing he was being controlled by Romulus/Weapon X. He would like nothing more than to shred Wolverine into little pieces in a direct fight (as demonstrated the first time Wolverine "killed" Sabretooth) but he's being led on by people smarter than he is.
You keep trying to make an argument about Sabretooth being stupid, by utilizing the first scan I showed, as your counter proof, when the scan wasn't to showcase his intelligence in the first place.
The only argument I gave about Sabretooth not being stupid, was that the only reason one would make such a statement, is a lack of knowledge about the character.
Given your argument, I can only come to the conclusion, which was rather obvious from your initial statement, that you don't really know much about him.
I'll educate you a bit then.
Over the course of a single fight, he deduces that Daredevil is blind.
Hardly something an idiot would be capable of.
Another example of his cunning is when he manipulates Boom Boom into releasing him from his restraints.
He hacks into a government database, again not something an idiot would be capable of.
Minor side note here, there are two different scans, showing this particular point.
He deduces that some creations of Sinister are telepathic, and then using a device given to him by his employers, to projects his mind into them, in order to take them out.
You don't know what you're talking about, even in the damn scans, he lets Wolverine come up close to him, fight, and then begins to piss him off out of spite.
Funny, first off, you claim that I don't know what I'm talking about, when your claims, namely Sabretooth being stupid and apparently incapable of taking a stealthy approach, has been dis-proven on multiple occasions.
Secondly, the fact that he engages Wolverine in H2H combat at the end, doesn't negate the fact that he kept away from Wolverine previously, and lured him to that particular spot.
Yeah, that definitely shows that he's not arrogant, good debating Kain.
First off, I haven't said anything about Sabretooth being arrogant or not.
From what I know, claiming that your opponent has said something which they haven't, isn't exactly considered stellar debating, but I guess where you're from such behaviour is looked upon as proper.
Secondly, I've now quite clearly shown, that Sabretooth is more than capable of taking a stealthy approach, and that he is far from an idiot, which rather nicely proves my initial points.
Are you serious? Try any time you've ever debated me before. 98% of the time you're wrong, and 100% of the time you're attempts to personally irk the other dude provide good entertainment in the process.
Except that that scan doesn't show Sabretooth's dealings with a normal opponent, he's personally trying to irk Wolverine, under Romulus' command (I've said all this before, but I guess you have trouble understanding, it's ok buddy, I'm used to it by now). He's always under someone else's command, he's quite literally, a tool. Yeah, not the trait of an intelligent man. Also, during Wolverine Origins, and Wolverine V 2 #44, and Wolverine's first encounter where he "killed" Sabretooth, Sabretooth basically just goes up to him and starts clawing away. For every one instance you show me of him attempting to ambush someone or use stealth, I have 3 of him straight up beserker-clawing people. Also, try every time he was seen in Weapon X or the CIA (the time when he had to assassinate a Russian scientist and just started clawing through the facility and fighting Omega Red is a good example). The time he fought Iron Fist in IF 14, the time he fought Spider-Man in ASM 116, the time he fought Black Cat (he was beaten btw). What about the time he fought the Morlocks, his stealthy strategy which included.... Oh yeah, run into the sewers and start clawing the shit out of everyone, that's right. Or when he tried to assassinate Xavier. He had an entire TEAM and basically unlimited prep time and he still couldn't take down DEADPOOL ffs.
You mean failing to ambush Bishop lol. What's the context/issue number for this?
He was being controlled by Valerie Cooper, who installed him as a sleeper agent into X-Factor so he can take out the X-Factor members the US Govt. couldn't control. They came up with the plan, not Creed, that's not his own volition. Also, considering he has been on the team, these are people he intimately knows, like the case with Wolverine, this is not representative here, where he has no personal history or knowledge with any of the combatants. In this case, he'll likely be overconfident and attack up front. Also, my argument was that the vast majority of the time, he would not use stealth, especially in a situation like this. You have failed to prove anything.
Bullseye and Typhoid Mary were also able to discern that fact in one fight, and they aren't exactly tactical geniuses. Also, Daredevil won that fight, I think you ought to find a better example. Even if he did discern that, he obviously wasn't smart enough to manipulate it into an advantage. Also, the fight was in the dark, and Sabretooth heard Daredevil sniffing, it doesn't take a freaking genius to piece that together. Seriously, if these are your best feats of Sabretooth's intelligence, I repeat, that puts him at the dumbest guy here.
Are you kidding? I could manipulate Boom Boom into letting me out of those restraints, especially since she's been seeking comfort in nursing a lobotomized me and confiding in me (against the advice of literally everyone else ont he team). Hell, under those circumstances, any idiot could persuade her to let him out of his cell.
The second scan definitely does not show hacking lol. Also, hacking a computer is cool and all, but it's not very useful in a fight. I'm very well aware that Sabretooth has some hidden intelligence (according to some writers), but that intelligence in a fight is covered by his "extreme arrogance and bestial nature" in a fight, so it doesn't really do him a whole lot of good.
I'm not really sure how deducing that clones that are supposed to have all of the powers of the X-Men also have telepathy is impressive (and then getting the government to help actually exploit that weakness). It seems like common sense, especially if you know anything at all about Sinister and his fascination with Jean Gray (which Sabretooth does, since he's worked with Sinister extensively).
Ok, well then failing to address your opponents points in any way is still bad debating. The fact that Creed is arrogant and he doesn't know the combatants very well (an element that's not present in any of your scans by the way) suggests what? If you're too stupid to understand (probable), then I'll spell it out.