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#1 UMPIRE

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:11 AM

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:37 AM

Transformer vs. Transformer? Cool. Clear victor has to be Starscream.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:41 AM

G1 Soundwave has Ravage, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, Ratbat, Rumble, and Frenzy to help him.

 

Also, Soundwave could win this if he has the Harmony.

 

Transformers Wiki: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Harmony

 

Here is a video of the Harmony.

 

See 01:43 to 02:34, 10:23 to 10:45, 11:29 to 12:40, 16:16 to 17:09, and 17:48 to 18:58.

 



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:03 PM

It's a one-on-one fight, so I don't think Soundwave will have all the other characters you mentioned helping him.

 

As for the harmony, I'm not sure if that should be here or not. It didn't manage to destroy whoever it was hitting at the end. Also, Starscream can fly faster than sound, so hitting him with that in the first place is iffy.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:26 PM

It's a one-on-one fight, so I don't think Soundwave will have all the other characters you mentioned helping him.

 

Why does this have to be a one vs one fight?

 

As for the harmony, I'm not sure if that should be here or not.

 

The same thing can be said about Android 18, and any robot from Marvel and DC.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:33 PM

Why does this have to be a one vs one fight?

 

 

The same thing can be said about Android 18, and any robot from Marvel and DC.

Fox did, when he said it was a single self contained bot.

And yeah, that's certainly true. Obviously, the draft wasn't perfect. I don't expect it ever will be, but what can you do? So, harmony could be in play. Still, that attack only moves at the speed of sound, and starscream doesn't.

Also, one shot to the erase button, and that ability is moot.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:06 PM

Yeah it's one on one with no outside help. Soundwave has the advantage in the jungle. Starscream won't be able to attack and put down Soundwave from the air. It will be hard to locate Soundwave from the sky when he is deep in the jungle and knowing Soundwave he will go underground and travel underneath to make it extremely hard. I see Starscream having to fight on the ground where Soundwave has the most advantage with his type of sneak attacks and wins.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:18 PM

One hit with the null ray and Soundwave is a sitting target.

Plus, Starscream can just cluster bomb the jungle.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:31 PM

Ha I just did this fight just a few weeks ago!  Anybody remember? Now all of a sudden all these comments! (long stream of curse words)

I'm actually writing the fight right now. Don't know what the actual match will be but I'll figure that out eventually.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:46 PM

This depends on which versions of Starscream and Soundwave are fighting here, really.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:57 PM

This depends on which versions of Starscream and Soundwave are fighting here, really.

This is true as well.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:29 PM

This depends on which versions of Starscream and Soundwave are fighting here, really.

 

Yea, G1 Starscream may have trouble fighting Prime Soundwave.

 

 



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:31 PM

See 06:11 to 7:49 to see Soundwave fight Optimus Prime.

 



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:42 PM

Ah, snap! Prime's Soundwave? He might be the most clever Soundwave there is.

 

Your move, Berg. I don't envy you here.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:07 PM

Prime Soundwave doesn't have anything to protect himself against the null ray, which Starscream can fire from his jet mode. Scream can easily win this by clusterbombing the jungle and taking out an exposed Soundwave with the null ray.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:27 PM

Okay, which Starscream are we talking here? Several versions use null rays. 

 

And heh, a few versions of Soundwave can fly, too. Prime's Soundwave can fly in his alt mode, a drone jet.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:39 PM

Not only that Soundwave depending on the version can read the mind of other transformers. Another advantage.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:22 AM

I always thought that Soundwave is the more superior Decepticon than Starscream.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:49 AM

Not only that Soundwave depending on the version can read the mind of other transformers. Another advantage.

Not in Prime, and I believe that's the version in the battle.

Even so, I don't think there's much he can do about carpet bombing and the null rays. Starscream is faster and has the weapons to put down Soundwave.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:56 PM

Well, which version of Starscream are you using, Berg? This could very well determine the direction of this match-up.






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