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#1 UMPIRE

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:06 AM

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:23 PM

She could take this if she could sneak attack him. Not to mention, she could touch him and learn his magic.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:28 PM

Is that how her powers work? She would get some of his magic maybe, but has she ever stolen divine powers before? Also, just because she gains the magic, she doesn't necessarily know how to use it, and doesn't Gandalf augment his powers with rings and his staff?



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:46 PM

Is that how her powers work? She would get some of his magic maybe, but has she ever stolen divine powers before? Also, just because she gains the magic, she doesn't necessarily know how to use it, and doesn't Gandalf augment his powers with rings and his staff?

 

Did she absorb Ares by any chance? A quick Google search told me that.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:47 PM

Yeah I think she won't be able to use his magic.  If this is Gandalf in human form.  He uses his staff mostly for his magic.  I think he might win depending on which Rogue this is.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:50 PM

I thought the Earth-616 version was the obvious choice unless somebody chose a different version in mind. Hell, for season three, if I intend on choosing Hannibal Lecter or Cheetara as possible team members, I have the TV show and 2011 reboot versions in mind.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:50 PM

Trying to absorb Ares rendered her unconscious iirc.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:52 PM

Trying to absorb Ares rendered her unconscious iirc.

So, the same can be said if she touched a wizard?



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 02:09 PM

Classic Rogue fits the slot which people are forgetting. That Rogue has Ms.Marvel's powers and with one touch Thor was knocked out. Her ability was at her most powerful then. If she had touched Ares then he would have passed out easily like Thor. However Gandalf probably beats her before she could even get anywhere near him.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 02:11 PM

Classic Rogue fits the slot which people are forgetting. That Rogue has Ms.Marvel's powers and with one touch Thor was knocked out. Her ability was at her most powerful then. If she had touched Ares then he would have passed out easily like Thor. However Gandalf probably beats her before she could even get anywhere near him.

That's what I thought, thank you.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:02 PM

I think yes she could absorb some of his magic. Divine or not it's still a part of him. That said I think that she'll have to figure out how to use the magic quick enough, she's not trained in it and would be using his skills whereas he knows readily how to use them. Add on Narya which would help protect him from a power that's basically absorbing a bit of his being, it does provided protection from domination after all save if Sauron has the One, and I think Gandalf should have this.

Edit:The wizards staffs in LOTR tends to be a way to channel their magic in ways it can be used physically enough. Consider in the animated version of the Hobbit that Gandalf was tossing fire bombs down by altering pine cones i believe, (have to re-watch it again to make sure).The staff at most was not shown to be helping in any form there save for being in his one hand and helping bash worgs trying to climb the tree



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:45 PM

If Gandalf throws some heavy magic her way from the start he can win easily. If not he gets knocked the hell out.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:58 PM

How does the stealing–power thing work if they are technically powered by another being? I thought all of the maiar were powered by the valar.

 

Anywho, as someone pointed out her stealing his magic would mean her having to be able to use the magic which she would struggle with in a single fight. Gandalf could probably hit her with something early on and take her out fast enough.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:50 PM

If Gandalf throws some heavy magic her way from the start he can win easily. If not he gets knocked the hell out.

This sums it up right here. Gandalf will have to hit hard and quick with his magic. If not Rogue does still have super strength which even the Ring of Fire's not going to help him withstand.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:04 PM

Would she really need to understand how to use the magic if simply touching him knocks him out or at the very least makes him woozy enough that a closed fist will clearly knock him out.

 

Of course that is all contingent on her reaching him, which I think she can. But I am admittedly biased. 



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:13 PM

wizards are people with a lot of knowledge of magic she could take Gandalf's knowledge so she could take his magic and if she held on for to long she would kill him.



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Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:14 PM

Rogue gets their memories as well so she wouldn't have trouble using his magic. She doesn't need to touch him to win though. With the power of Ms.Marvel she would have to reach him in time and knock him out before he hits her with a powerful magic attack. Problem is Gandalf doesn't f**k around so his chances of winning are higher.



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 06:08 PM

Rogue with her flying abilities and super durability and strength will destroy Gandolf even without his magic. She is too much for him.

 

Movie versions though Gandolf wins as Rogue was the worst character, almost like the Family Guy where Meg has long nails while everyone else has real powers.



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:34 PM

So, the same can be said if she touched a wizard?

 

If said Wizard is as powerful as the likes of Ares, yes?

 

But seeing as this is classic Rogue, that doesn't matter I suppose since Thor outclasses the likes of Ares by far.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:45 PM

This team-battles makes the best match-ups!!!






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