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2:4 - Iron-Fist vs. Zealot


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#1 UMPIRE

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:01 AM

SEASON 2, ROUND 4
Iron-Fist
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Slot: Bringing the teams Kung-Fu
Season Wins: 1
Season Losses: 0
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Official Site: Marvel Entertainment

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Slot: Bringing the teams Kung-Fu
Season Wins: 1
Season Losses: 0
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Read more about Zealot at Wikipedia
Official Site: Wildstorm

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Combat Terrain: Dagobah
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Posted 18 June 2013 - 11:56 AM

Awesome fight but Zealot wins in the end. 



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:38 PM

Awesome fight but Zealot wins in the end. 

Second.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:49 AM

In Hand to hand Zealot has been bested by Backlash and I put Iron-Fist's skills above his. Added to this his powers and this would be the win for him. If the swords come into play then this will be a lot harder for him but I think he has the speed and reflexes (which have matched speedsters) to take this. His Chi enhanced durability, speed and strength coupled with his skill should win the day. 

 

Also (no connection), this is a pretty cool pic. 

 

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

HIs speed and reflexes wouldn't be much of a advantage here. Zealot has fought Majestic who was on a Pre-Crisis Superman level. Ironfist's skills being above Backlash is very debatable.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:24 AM

I consider Zealot to be superior to the Prince of Orphans.

 

Guess who the Prince of Orphan's thrashed? Iron Fist.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

HIs speed and reflexes wouldn't be much of a advantage here. Zealot has fought Majestic who was on a Pre-Crisis Superman level. Ironfist's skills being above Backlash is very debatable.

Just to clarify for everyone.  Majestic is roughly on level with Bronze Age Superman. Not Silver Age, which is usually what "pre-crisis Superman" refers to.

 

I consider Zealot to be superior to the Prince of Orphans.

Do you have anything to back that up?

 

People also seem to be ignoring that Zealot generally doesn't fight pure hand-to-hand.  She is armed with her Kusar blades, that Iron Fist's durability won't protect him against.

Finally, while Zealot has been defeated by Backlash, the same is also true the other way around.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:14 AM

Just to clarify for everyone.  Majestic is roughly on level with Bronze Age Superman. Not Silver Age, which is usually what "pre-crisis Superman" refers to.

So he's weaker than post-crisis Superman (post John Bryne anyway)?



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:44 AM

I don't recall Post-Crisis Superman being powerful enough to move planets with relative ease.

 

Post-Flashpoint Superman is more powerful than pre-flashpoint, and he has been brought back to roughly Bronze Age levels again.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:44 AM

Not really, it's a matter of opinion hence consider but given they're pretty hardcore martial artists in their respective universes, I defer to Zealot for several reasons. Keep in mind, I strictly mean skills wise, not powers as PoO could likely conceivably win due to his mist form.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 05:46 PM

I don't recall Post-Crisis Superman being powerful enough to move planets with relative ease.

 

Post-Flashpoint Superman is more powerful than pre-flashpoint, and he has been brought back to roughly Bronze Age levels again.

Bronze age Superman is after he gained invulnerability to Kryptonite but also after a sand monster drained a portion of his powers (The Bronze Age is 1970 to 1985). He's quite a bit weaker than Silver Age, who "moved planets with relative ease". And I'm pretty sure Post-Crisis Superman, when he was angry/let go of his mental inhibitors could move or destroy planets pretty easily.

 

Also, Iron Fist wins because of his chi-enhanced abilities and powers, not so much pure skill.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 06:27 PM

Bronze age Superman is after he gained invulnerability to Kryptonite but also after a sand monster drained a portion of his powers (The Bronze Age is 1970 to 1985). He's quite a bit weaker than Silver Age, who "moved planets with relative ease". And I'm pretty sure Post-Crisis Superman, when he was angry/let go of his mental inhibitors could move or destroy planets pretty easily.

 

Also, Iron Fist wins because of his chi-enhanced abilities and powers, not so much pure skill.

I know which one Bronze Age is.

Silver Age is the one that sneezed solar systems away, towed entire strings of planets around, etc.

Bronze Age Superman was able to move individual planets, with relative ease.  Which is the level that Majestic is at(and the level that Superman seems to have been put back on after Flashpoint).



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:01 AM

Match Final Results
Iron-Fist: 17
Zealot: 11





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