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#1 UMPIRE

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 12:55 PM

SEASON 1, ROUND 5
Ginormica
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Slot: General melee or close range type character
Season Wins: 0
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Low Gravity
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Posted 02 June 2013 - 02:01 PM

Rock Lee should take this, but it's been forever since I've seen Monsters vs Aliens.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 02:03 PM

Man.

 

Take Taskmaster's lesson from Camp Hammond - everything that's vital in the human is enlarged in the likes of giant metahumans...

 

Rock Lee could just hit all the sweet spots and own her :)



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 08:30 PM

Lee's speed is more than a match for her size

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:24 PM

Lee's speed may be greater, but this IS a low gravity area as well.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:25 PM

The human eye can't even track him under normal conditions. If he's slowed than that much, Ginormica would barely be able to move.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:28 PM

The Arena of Khazan?? SWEET!



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:19 PM

Lee's speed may be greater, but this IS a low gravity area as well.


Low gravity isn't such an issue for Naruto ninjas who can walk on water, up the sides of trees, or just hang upside down all by molding chakra in their feet.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 02:37 PM

Low gravity isn't such an issue for Naruto ninjas who can walk on water, up the sides of trees, or just hang upside down all by molding chakra in their feet.

Rock Lee can't mold chakra.

 

On the other hand, he wears weights that weighs several hundred kilograms, which should help with the low gravity problem, to a certain degree at least.

Rock Lee easily has this, he is superior in just about every way that matters.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 02:43 PM

How does Ginormica's strength increase relative to her size? If it increases one to one, she will have serious movement troubles.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:31 PM

Here's a quick calculation for Dinsdale(or anyone else) that can give you the answer to that:

A muscle produces X amount of energy/force.

The same muscle is enlarged(higher amount of muscle mass, with the same density), i.e. made Z times larger than it originally was. It now produces Y amount of energy/force.

 

If you look at a vid clip showing Ginormica's transformation/enlargement(if there are any vids that shows it) then you can approximate the value of Z. All you have to do, is figure out the value of Y compared to X.

Y = Z times X.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:16 PM

I dunno enough about the application of that formula to use it.

 

I can say that as height increases as a linear function, strength increases as a square, and mass increases as a cube.

 

Let's say Ginormica's human height is 5'6", she weighs 110 lbs and can lift her own weight. If we multiply her height 10 times we get this...

 

Height = human height *10 = 55'

Lift = himan lift * 10^2 = 10,000 lbs

Weight = human weight * 10^3 = 100,000 lbs

 

Strength hasn't increased nearly as much as mass and now she can only lift 10% of her body weight. She would have trouble moving, or even breathing at that size would probably break her leg if she tried to stand.

 

Since Ginormica is able to move as easily at giant size as she was at normal size, I believe her transformation also increased the strength of her bones and muscles in proportion to her mass increase. She's the size of an apatosaur is but much stronger and harder to hurt because of her super-dense tissues.

 

If I'm right, Ginormica would weigh 50 tons and could lift about 50 tons as well. I tried to figure Rock Lee once but there wasn't much evidence available. Based on his weighted clothes and uprooting a big tree my best estimate was that he could lift 10-20 tons. If that's right, Ginormica would be about 3 times as strong as Rock and possibly more. 

 

So, she's stronger and probably more durable but (I don't think) ahs any training as a fighter and Rock is a lot faster. 

 

(I'm assuming Ginormica is 50' tall because she seems to be a parody of the title character from "Attack of the 50 foot Woman.")



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:58 PM

Found two videos of Ginormica that could help....

 

 



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

How strong is lee when he opens the chakra gates?

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:53 PM

Rock Lee can't mold chakra.


He can mold chakra he just can't use ninjutsu or genjutsu.

He walked on water against the Kisame doppleganger and I'm almost certain he's hung upside down before.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

The way Ginormica holds off the robot makes me think she can lift a lot more than her own body weight. I can't see a good way to measure it, but I'd guess from this she can lift at least 5 times her weight, which would be around 250 tons.

 

It's hard to measure Rock Lee's strength but we can roughly estimate the energy of his punch from the punch that shatters the big stone dude when he opens the fifth gate. At his full size he appears to be about 10' tall and 4.5 feet across the shoulders. A granite cylinder 10' high with a 4.5 foot diameter would weigh 12.9 tons. Extrapolating from the asteroid destruction calculator I get an estimate of 21 lbs of TNT to cause that much stone to fragment. That's very close to the explosive force of the standard explosive warhead for a sidewinder air to air missile.

 

A boxing punch hits at about 10-15 feet/sec and (working backwards) it looks like about 3% of the boxer's weight helps to generate the kinetic energy. 3% of Ginormica's weight would be 1.5 tons. Her punch will be travelling 10 times as a normal person's because it has to cross 10 times the distance in the same amount of time. if we do the math, 1.5 tons at 100 feet/sec would be 632 kiloJoules or the equal of only about 1/3 pound of TNT. If we allow for her strength being 5 times as great as a "normal" giant of her size that's still only about 1/10 the energy of Rock's best punch.

 

Based on this, I'd say Rock Lee. I doubt his lesser attacks will do much to her, but if he opens all his chakra gates he can take her down with one blow.



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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:19 AM

Match Final Results
Ginormica: 8
Rock Lee: 18





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