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#1 FoxFingers

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

Really?  Lottery tickets?  I think we need GWAR lottery tickets, then.

 

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:09 AM

Well, they have every other kinda merchandise imaginable.

 

KISS: The definition of a sold-out band. 



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:27 AM

They probably jumped the shark sometime around the year they started making comics and toys.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:16 AM

Kiss at this point are competing in the shark hurdles



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:50 AM

I never cared for kiss at all.



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

Guys, you're missing the point. Kiss never sold 'in' in the first place. The very concept of Kiss was to become a brand. The toys, comics, lottery tickets and all the rest of it? That was the idea since the beginning. You can't say they sold out their principles for money and fame because they were all about the money and fame to begin with. Gene Simmons would tell you that himself. 



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:55 AM

I found a Hello Kiss Kitty at Barnes and Noble. 

 

Let that sink in.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 05:09 PM

KISS are horrible. Their music is unlistenable to me, similar to Alice Cooper. They look cool and when I was a child I thought that they might be awesome, based on their costumes, before I'd ever heard them.

 

Those in defense of their music, listen to their hits. "IIIIIIIII wana rock and roll...alll daaaaay and party every niiiightttt!" So. F'ing stupid. Comparable to the solo Ozzy stuff. Those were the times everyone one tries to forget happened.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:27 PM

Way I see it is if you're judging music by the lyrics, you're doing it wrong.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:03 PM

Way I see it is if you're judging music by the lyrics, you're doing it wrong.

 

Actually, that is probably the only possible way to judge Bob Dylan, because purely as music Dylan sounds like over-caffeinated yowling beatnik cats mating... poorly.

 

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 01:27 AM

Way I see it is if you're judging music by the lyrics, you're doing it wrong.

 

An entire genre disagrees with you.



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:27 AM

In fairness, Even KISS's biggest fans admit they're the cheesy action movies of the music genre. They're a lot of fun, but they're meaningless trash (not that there's anything wrong with that). I really don't think KISS are that similar to Cooper or Ozzy though. The music has a completely different feel. 

Also, lyrics come into it, but judge the whole peace - lyrics and music. Even rap songs need a good beat. 

And I love Dylan's broken voice, actually. For me, it adds emotional resonance to his music. 



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:34 AM

In fairness, Even KISS's biggest fans admit they're the cheesy action movies of the music genre. They're a lot of fun, but they're meaningless trash (not that there's anything wrong with that). I really don't think KISS are that similar to Cooper or Ozzy though. The music has a completely different feel. 

Also, lyrics come into it, but judge the whole peace - lyrics and music. Even rap songs need a good beat. 

And I love Dylan's broken voice, actually. For me, it adds emotional resonance to his music. 

 

^This guy. I don't judge based on lyrics, but they do play into it. Like, my favorite album, Midnight Organ Fight is my favorite because of its lyrical content, but I didn't start listening to it and start liking it because of its lyrics. Lyrics are icing on the cake, it's the actual music that draws me and determines if its good or not. My favorite band is The New Pornographers and I'll be damned if I know what a single song of theirs is about (except for something like "My Slow Descent Into Alcoholism").



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 11:51 AM


And I love Dylan's broken voice, actually. For me, it adds emotional resonance to his music. 

 

Sure.  And don't get me wrong, I love Dylan.  Have his albums and seen him a couple times.  But... would Dylan's broken voice still be adding emotional resonance if his catalog of music was the lyrics from Brittany Spears albums?  I think it is the masterful Lyrics themselves which are the package for Dylan.  



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:28 PM

See, I don't know about that. His voice makes it seem like he truly believes in his lyrics, he feels what he's singing. So if he's singing about something dumb, if he convinces me that it's real with his voice, then I'm in.



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:29 PM

It's like with most other things, different people judge music based on different things.

 

For me, it depends on the song.  Some songs, I like because of their lyrics. The sound of the voice, and the music, are ok, but the lyrics is what makes the song actually worth listening to over and over again.  With others, it's the sound of the voice, while the music and lyrics are just icing.  With others again, it's the music(with some, it's purely the music).

 

Likewise, it's different for different genres.  You can't really judge Rap song or Death Metal song, on the same things that you would judge a Johnny Cash song, to give an example.  Apples and oranges.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:35 PM

KISS are horrible. Their music is unlistenable to me, similar to Alice Cooper. They look cool and when I was a child I thought that they might be awesome, based on their costumes, before I'd ever heard them.

 

Those in defense of their music, listen to their hits. "IIIIIIIII wana rock and roll...alll daaaaay and party every niiiightttt!" So. F'ing stupid. Comparable to the solo Ozzy stuff. Those were the times everyone one tries to forget happened.

never compare kiss to Alice cooper he had some good songs he had some really bad ones too but he had some good ones kiss never  did.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:30 AM

What year is this? 2013? Yeah ... And we're discussing if KISS jumped the shark.



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

I judge based on lyrics and emotion I tend to like the people who are so passionate about there music they hurt themselves on stage my favorite band of all time was nirvana because you could tell they put everything into their music and it really meant something to them.






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