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#41 KidStranglehold

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:02 PM

And back on topic, yes Quicksilver could very well take this himself. Is he still FTL speed capable? It's been a while.

The most recent I've seen of him is in AvX, crossing 350 miles in like 3 seconds.


I don't remember it ever being stated that he was FTL, but IIRC he has ran around the planet, but I do not think he was moving FTL. I'll check and probably post a scan.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:02 PM

Did you ignore my post or what?

Punisher just shot from FOUR miles away, and it was a perfect shot to the head.

Really, try again.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:02 PM

Wrong again

A sniper rifle can be heard from approx. 2 miles away. And that range is beyond ridiculously far if you are expecting Punisher to hit Batman in the mouth. So, Batman could doge the shot.


Norman Osborn didn't hear it...Neither did the crowd until Sentry can and stopped it...Since he HAS super hearing and very fast reflexes...

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:03 PM

I don't remember it ever being stated that he was FTL, but IIRC he has round around the planet, but I do not think he was moving FTL. I'll check and probably post a scan.


He was FTL.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:04 PM

He was FTL.


When? I don't ever remember ever. If so...FINALLY!!!

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:05 PM

When? I don't ever remember ever. If so...FINALLY!!!


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:07 PM

Not really. He even says that "the shooter is too good and the bullet is too fast", implying that he was unable to prevent the sniper from hitting who he wanted to hit.


Look at Batman's position. He turns to dodge the bullet, tossing Batarangs in the process.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

It looks ambiguous to me, maybe the bullet was going over his shoulder and all Bats did was throw Batarangs?

And yes, radio waves travel at the speed of light.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

He has to hear to dodge.

Snipers can be heard from 2 miles away.

Punisher can shoot a perfect head shot from 4 miles away.

Do the math.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

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"I just ran half across the globe in 92 seconds."

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

Quicksilver needs a huge push by Marvel...For decades people saw him as the slowest speedster, but he is improving.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:12 PM

Did you ignore my post or what?

Punisher just shot from FOUR miles away, and it was a perfect shot to the head.

Really, try again.

Sorry, didn't see it in time. But, that could be called PIS. It's simply absurd. Also, Norman Osborne was standing still, as Batman certainly wouldn't be.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:13 PM

Sorry, didn't see it in time. But, that could be called PIS. It's simply absurd. Also, Norman Osborne was standing still, as Batman certainly wouldn't be.


How is it PIS?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:16 PM

How is it PIS?


Because there's no goddamn way that a human being could possible make a 4 mile shot. Snipers can't even shoot that far. It's even more crazy than bullet dodging. It's less plausible than aliens with superpowers!

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

Because there's no goddamn way that a human being could possible make a 4 mile shot. Snipers can't even shoot that far. It's even more crazy than bullet dodging. It's less plausible than aliens with superpowers!


IIRC Punisher had a high powered Skrull rifle(which I think he still does have). And please do not make me bring up Batman's PIS feats...

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:32 PM

Also Nova...I think the scan you posted with Quicksilver moving at radio waves is WIS. I did more research and yes Radio waves do move as fast as light. Yet when Pietro was supposedly moving faster than radio waves it took him 92 seconds to cover the globe. Light does not need 92 seconds to cover the globe.

But QS still solo's this.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

Those were different instances iirc.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:37 PM

Those were different instances iirc.


I'm pretty sure those were in the same comic.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:41 PM

It was the same run of Mighty Avengers, all right. I just don't know if those scans are from the same issue.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:54 PM

Even then. A sniper shot likely wouldn't pierce Batman's armor,


It depends on the armor and the rifle. Sniper rifles tend to be much more powerful than handguns, submachine guns or even military assault rifles. I've seen footage of a .50 caliber sniper rifle punching through a Kevlar vest like it was made of Kleenex.

and it's almost impossible to make a sniper shot from miles away.


Actually, it's completely impossible. The range on the best sniper guns is just over a mile.


Also (I'll find the scan if necessary) Batman has dodged sniper fire before.


It's possible to do that. The Barrett M-82 fires a round at a muzzle velocity of slightly under 1000 yards / second. If Batman knew exactly when and where the shot was coming from and was far enough away, he could. The problem isn't reflexes, it's spotting the sniper and seeing the muzzle flash. The bullet is supersonic so you won't hear anything until after it hits you.

So, while Batman has dodged sniper fire, that's no guarantee he will be able to dodge it again.

But there's also no guarantee that Castle would be able to lure Batman into a position where could take a shot at him. When someone is that stealthy the sniper has a real challenge.

So no, Castle wouldn't win on his own terms. Batman is to smart, too strong, and too skilled for Punisher. But obviously in this specific scenario, Batman loses to the team.


I'd bet on Batman against Punisher, but it's by no means an automatic win.




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