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[victim36]

I'm surprised the Twilight ponce hasn't been mentioned. Edward Cullen single-handedly disses years of Vampire lore and creates a godmodder that would be bitch-slapped a thousand ways from next Tuesday if it were made here.

Twilight series, as a whole, has bastardized the total history of vampires and werewolves. I remember being irriatated with Van Helsing, when it hit the theatres. But, it didn't slap the genre in the face half as hard as what Stephanie Meyers has done.

Vampires that can't be staked, show up in mirrors, and can even go out in sunlight. They just sparkle, like something from Liberace's closet. The wolves are bearable, easlily angered and change form because of it. But, they're not really werewolves. Instead they're indians who get the ability only when vampires are in the region?! Crap!!

And people love this crap. Why?!? The Bella and Edward are about as interesting as drying paint. Jacob is so freaking mopey, it makes you wonder where his black lipstick and eyeliner are hidden at. Just makes you realize how much taste we've lost as a society.

[Kinetic War]

Vampires that can't be staked, show up in mirrors, and can even go out in sunlight. They just sparkle, like something from Liberace's closet.

To be fair, the weakness to sunlight first showed up in the German silent film Nosferatu (rel. in Germany in 1922), so it's a relatively new addition to the vampire lore. Dracula himself, who could go around in sunlight unharmed and without sparkling, was composed of bits and pieces of folklore, and was very much an original creation by Stoker.

Still, the point is clear. I've never read or watched Twilight in my life, and that's not about to change. To an old (both meanings) fan of horror literature and movies, teenage angst versions of classic monsters is blasphemy.

[treacherous]

teenage angst versions of classic monsters is blasphemy...

Yet ultimately inevitable.

[boston_celtics]

Because I lack the time (well, not really. Not at all) and the diligence to elaborate, I'll list off people at random.

Hippolyta Hall- Not because she was a badly written character (show me a badly written Gaiman-character, and I'll show you a flying pig) but because she annoyed the hell out of me, especially in the Kindly Ones.

Every single soldier of the Galactic Empire who does not wear Stormtrooper armor- They look like Nazis.

C-3P0- Stupid droid doesn't know when to shut up.

Delirium of the Endless- Stupid text boxes were written so small. And shes annoying.

Superman- 'Cause everybody thinks he's so special cause he was first, etcetera, etcetera, and that makes him a TRUE hero, whatever the hell that is.

Black Cat- What did she do? Really, what did she ever do that really meant something in the grand scheme of things?

The Hardy Boys- I hate goody-two-shoes amateur detectives from the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, etc.

Mario- For a plumber with character development the size of an atom, people really think he's one of the best characters in video games.

[treacherous]

Delirium of the Endless- Stupid text boxes were written so small. And shes annoying.

Bah. I'll give you Hall, but I can't agree with you on Delirium. She was Delightful. I looked forward to her appearances.

[Marvel Man]

Black Cat- What did she do? Really, what did she ever do that really meant something in the grand scheme of things?

The Cat, like many other women, gives artist the excuse to draw barely clothe women in interesting positions. Story wise, Peter was a lucky guy...

*wink* *wink*

Mario- For a plumber with character development the size of an atom, people really think he's one of the best characters in video games.

In his defense, Mario was created back when it was impressive that you could tell what the pixels were suppose to be. Nowadays, every character needs a story, but back then, did anyone ask why mushrooms made him grow? Or why he was fighting a giant monkey?

Still, I see where you're coming from. Mario still hasn't explained those mushrooms...

[darthsketch]

I hate this guy.

[boston_celtics]

I hate this guy.

The cripple from Rear Window?

[Landon]

If Mario got a backstory, he'd be ruined forever.

[Marvel Man]

@ Darthsketch

Good choice.

If Mario got a backstory, he'd be ruined forever.

Agreed.

Just look at Sonic. The hedgehog has so much backstory that it's not even interesting anymore. Plus, what's with all the sonic copies?

[videogameman]

Mario- For a plumber with character development the size of an atom, people really think he's one of the best characters in video games.

To be fair, he's awesome in these vids.

Mario introduces the DS

Mario introduces the DS 2

If Mario was that awesome in the games I would buy his games even though it's on the Wii(I HATE MOTION CONTROLS)!

[Stranglehold-prime]

We always talk about characters we love or characters who don't get enough respect, but what about characters that suck. In this thread we discuss which characters suck and why. let's talk about that shall we...

My first pick...Sentry (that's right Marvel Man)

Why does he suck? Long story...here we go:

First Marvel has always had one BIG BLUE looming bane to their existence. His name: Superman. Superman was first and Superman was/is best. He is the epidemy of hero. Marvel has always been on the coat tails of trying to compete and defeat big blue to no avail. Supes is an American Icon. He is known throughout the world by people who know nothing of comics. Sure Marvel has characters that can beat up Superman (IE: Thor, Surfer), but who can relate to a god and a silver alien (by the way, Superman catching Thor's hammer in the Justice League/Avengers crossover was pure retarded. Superman has a weakness to magic. Not to mention this is magic wielded by a god. That hammer would've took Supes hand off. Popularity kids...popularity always wins.). What's that you say, "Supes is an alien." Yeah, but he looks like you and I and was raised by Ma and Pa Kent in the heartlands of Kansas. He's more American than apple pie. People love him and they relate to him, more so than they do with Thor and Surfer. So...Marvel has a knock off Superman by the name of Gladiator (who happens to be purple and has a mohawk). Let's discuss Gladiator, Marvel's answer to Supes?

First and foremost, Gladiator is a jobber (Wrestling term: look it up). His job is to make more popular characters look good. Basically, if you want Thor, Hulk or Thanos to look more powerful, have them beat up Gladiator. That's his purpose. Meanwhile, Gladiator is free to beat the crap out of any super powered individual of lesser importance. Don't get me wrong, sometimes Gladiator beats the more popular characters. He once beat Thor. But, most times...he's a jobber. So, Marvel still needs an anti-superman. This brings us to Sentry.

Horrible, horrible Sentry. The worst Superman knockoff of them all. His origin was so screwed and marred, It took them forever to sort it all out. He was originally a hero, but we all forgot about him because of the void or somebody stole our memory or blah blah blah stupid. So whatever, he's here and you deal with it. Oh and he needs to be relatable...blond hair blue eyes. That's more American than Superman! Now, he's got some ungodly power of a billion stars or something. What? How? We still don't know. Now, we got to make him stronger than Superman. Let's have him stop Terrax's axe. Ooh yeah, that's a Herald of Galactus. Nice PIS. Let's have him rip Carnage in half. Yeah, another great move. Let's have him do pretty much anything.

But wait he needs a weakness. We need to make him more relatable (believable). Okay, his only weakness is his fear of himself. That's right...he's so strong that the only thing he fears is himself (the void...whatever that is). There now he has a weakness, yet is still a badass. Now we'll have him cower in fear whenever trouble arises. He's scared of life...just like me! Whee. I'm just like the Sentry. He's so much better than Superman. Blegh, never Marvel. Give up. You'll never beat Superman.

What are you talking about. Sentry is a good character. He would equel Superman.

Look at the neat stuff he did.

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[treacherous]

Thank you for highlighting (with visual references) the point I made for hating him. Thank you very much.

[AKUMA]

What are you talking about. Sentry is a good character. He would equel Superman.

Look at the neat stuff he did.

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thats why he hates him.

[silversurfer092]

Thank you for highlighting (with visual references) the point I made for hating him. Thank you very much.

I couldn't tell if he was sarcastic or stupid. I hate people who hate Superman for the reason of "People like him because he was the first superhero ever! Blah blah blah, I like new characters who do what they want and have no morals or guidelines for how they operate." If you hate how he's a boyscout and how he does have ideals, fine. But if you hate him because he's an old character? That's stupid in itself.


I hate Tony Stark because he's a selfish douchebag. Although, "The Confession" gave him some redemption.

I also hate Mr. Fantastic. Anyone who feeds himself and his family to zombies because the zombies are genetically superior is a total douchebag. The fact that his passion for creating a prison for his friends ruined his family doesn't speak much for him either.

[MarvelFan15]

I also hate Mr. Fantastic. The fact that his passion for creating a prison for his friends ruined his family doesn't speak much for him either.

Enter Mark Millar!

[Marvel Man]

Blah blah blah!

I hate people who hate people who hate Superman for the reason of "People like him because he was the first superhero ever!"

I hate Tony Stark because he's a selfish douchebag. Although, "The Confession" gave him some redemption.

Agreed.

[treacherous]

Heh.

[Kinetic War]

Sarcastic or no, what Stranglehold-prime just did there perfectly illustrates why I don't particularly care to join the CBUB Battles discussions anymore. People automatically associating "good characters" with "uberpowerfulness" is what makes many of the discussions a waste of time. Something that would never pass on the FPL, as can be seen here.

Back to the subject. There are a bunch of characters I hate because they are written that way, not because they necessarily suck. Sometimes, the line between being a badass and being a jackass is not noticeable at first glance, but it's there, and some characters are the latter but think they're the former. Luke Cage is one of those characters. I hate his macho-attitude and that Bendis made him one of the most feared characters in the Marvel Universe (like having unbreakable skin, muscles and a mean face really was enough in a world full of infinitely powerful beings), but most of all I hate his constantly acting like the bad cop. Threatening innocent people on basis of suspecting them or because he wants to earn their respect, and getting away with it without getting his skull crushed in retaliation at one point or another just makes him a karma houdini, and nobody likes a karma houdini. Same reason I never like to watch certain crime drama series, as it seems the cops tend to be complete jerks to all people they suspect. Maybe that's a realistic depiction, maybe not, but I still don't like it. To use a famous quote from the Conan the Barbarian series by Howard:

Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.

Makes me smile every time, because it's so true.