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Match 13359 The Dragon Ball Universe vs. Greek Pantheon (Mythology)


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

Doesn't mythological Zeus have omnipotent powers? Just asking. I was never a fan of Greek Gods, but Egyptian ones. ^_^

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

Doesn't mythological Zeus have omnipotent powers? Just asking. I was never a fan of Greek Gods, but Egyptian ones. data:image/png;base64,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

No he isn't omnipotent, he didn't create the earth and he can be killed. I don't think Zeus has many feats in mythology besides some fancy shapeshifting and weather control. (Though I maybe wrong) He is physically powerful if we assume he is close to equaling Herc though.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:37 PM

^^^Okay. I'm not a Greek guy. ^_^

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:47 PM

No he isn't omnipotent, he didn't create the earth and he can be killed. I don't think Zeus has many feats in mythology besides some fancy shapeshifting and weather control. (Though I maybe wrong) He is physically powerful if we assume he is close to equaling Herc though.


Then this is a stomp match for the DBZ fighters. Nice profile image by the way. Seems familiar though.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

No he isn't omnipotent, he didn't create the earth and he can be killed. I don't think Zeus has many feats in mythology besides some fancy shapeshifting and weather control. (Though I maybe wrong) He is physically powerful if we assume he is close to equaling Herc though.

Uh, he's far more powerful than Herc? Assuming god > demigod, of course, which isn't hard to believe.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:07 PM

Which mythological version of the Greek Gods/heroes are we talking about? Orphic? Homeric? Theogony? Or.. what?

The answer to that, has a huge impact on the battle.




As for Darksaiyajin345's claim, that Broly is capable of destroying a galaxy...

Since I have already had that debate, several times before, I would like to ask a question, before I even consider presenting the evidence to the contrary.

Are you(Darksaiyajin345) actually willing to look at, and consider, the evidence. And if the evidence shows that your claim is false(i.e. that broly can not destroy a galaxy), are you willing to concede.

Or, would it be pointless to present the evidence, because you already have your head up your arse, and refuse to even consider that you might be wrong?


I'm tired of having that debate, so if you refuse to admit that you are wrong, even if you are presented with evidence that shows you are wrong, then I really can't be arsed, with presenting the evidence, if you have your head so far up your arse, that I might as well be talking to a wall.


That said: Absolutely amazing setup, definitely the best I've seen around here for quite a while.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

As for Darksaiyajin345's claim, that Broly is capable of destroying a galaxy...

Since I have already had that debate, several times before, I would like to ask a question, before I even consider presenting the evidence to the contrary.

Are you(Darksaiyajin345) actually willing to look at, and consider, the evidence. And if the evidence shows that your claim is false(i.e. that broly can not destroy a galaxy), are you willing to concede.

Or, would it be pointless to present the evidence, because you already have your head up your arse, and refuse to even consider that you might be wrong?


I'm tired of having that debate, so if you refuse to admit that you are wrong, even if you are presented with evidence that shows you are wrong, then I really can't be arsed, with presenting the evidence, if you have your head so far up your arse, that I might as well be talking to a wall.

Sure Im willing to listen as long as it isn't that they fought on a planet in the south galaxy and there were some stars by the planet explanation that I get oh so often on this subject,since I already explained that in a thread a long time ago.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

This was....amazing! I love the Greek Myths and yes this is going to an EXTREMELY hard match for both sides. You have the Olympians who destroyed the Titan's (who made the world, universe, etc.) Olympians will be their toughest challenge yet. But with the Z Fighters and villains on the same page (showing no mercy) they will get the job done. I really don't know who would win. Can Goku absorb the heroes energy in a Spirit Bomb?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

This was....amazing! I love the Greek Myths and yes this is going to an EXTREMELY hard match for both sides. You have the Olympians who destroyed the Titan's (who made the world, universe, etc.) Olympians will be their toughest challenge yet. But with the Z Fighters and villains on the same page (showing no mercy) they will get the job done. I really don't know who would win. Can Goku absorb the heroes energy in a Spirit Bomb?

If he has time to charge it up while getting hit by lightning... repeatedly... magic lightning from possibly the most powerful (overall) god in the pantheon... since for epic's sake, they'll be fighting (Zeus and Goku).

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

He dodged lightning as a kid, he shouldn't have any problem dodging it now.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:29 PM

He dodged lightning as a kid, he shouldn't have any problem dodging it now.

While charging one of many attacks that take five episodes to make? I doubt it. :)

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

While charging one of many attacks that take five episodes to make? I doubt it. data:image/png;base64,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

Still wondering what natural lightning will do to someone with his kind of durability.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

...Except the lightning is magical and by the time he gets to Spirit Bombing, would've been specifically intended to kill him? Not just aimed, but empowered by Zeus... *shrugs*

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

can Goku and Vegeta turn to Vegito or Gogeta and Trunks and Goten can turn in to Gotenks? But, from the setup it looks like the teenage Trunks since he took his sword out so I guess Gotenks is out of the picture. But I wonder if Goku and Vegeta can have time to turn in to one of the fusions (Vegito if they have the earrings) or if Piccolo can even fuse with Kami if he needs to.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

What we really need are good strength, speed and durabity measuremments for te Gods and heroes. Yes te Gods have nasty magic that can turn the tide but they want to defeat the DBU's defenders which means straight combat first. Can they take what their opponents can dish out?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:43 PM

I'd like to give this an "A" but I can't find the "Rate match" button?

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

Zeus has the power to change a person into stone, animals, etc. He waves his hand and it is done.

I agree with Nesh and sirmethos. We really need more feats of the gods and to know what version specifically.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:12 PM

Sure Im willing to listen as long as it isn't that they fought on a planet in the south galaxy and there were some stars by the planet explanation that I get oh so often on this subject,since I already explained that in a thread a long time ago.


Awesome :)

In the claim that Broly is a "galaxy buster"/that Broly can "bust a galaxy", there is actually two claims. A. That the galaxy was destroyed. and B. That Broly did it with a single attack. If Broly did not do it with a single attack, then he would, at best, be a multi-solar system buster.

Now, I'll address those two separately.

1. The video(the intro of the movie) shows the galaxy, visibly moving. Even the 'destruction' of the galaxy, takes place while the galaxy is visibly moving. This shows us, quite clearly, that the galaxy was not 'destroyed' instantly, but over a longer period of time.

To support that, during the actual movie, we see several flashbacks of Broly, in the process of destroying planets.



2. In the video(movie intro) the narrator says that the South Galaxy is "under attack". While King Kai says "T-then the Southern Galaxy really is being...". Both statements indicate that the 'destruction' is an on-going thing, and is happening. I.e. that the South Galaxy still exists(it can't be under attack, if it doesn't exist).

When King Kai calls Goku up to send Goku after the 'Super Saiyan', Goku asks where he can find him(broly), and King Kai replies "somewhere in the South Galaxy". I.e. the galaxy has not been destroyed, and still exists.

We also see Goku searching the South Galaxy for the Super Saiyan, following the 'energy trail'. On several of the planets, including the first one he lands on in the South Galaxy, we see stars in the night sky, just as many as you would in a regular night sky. That =/= a destroyed galaxy.


What the evidence quite clearly shows that Broly did, is destroy countless planets(and even a few stars IIRC, but my memory might be off on that one), while on other planets, simply killing off the inhabitants, leaving the existing civilization in ruins.

What the evidence does not in any way show, is that Broly destroyed the galaxy, let alone with a single attack, as people like to claim.


This should be more than enough to debunk your claim(hell, the video that you yourself posted, should be enough to debunk your claim). But I'll stop here for now, and wait for your response.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:16 PM

Match looks good from a glance, Culwych. I'll check it out in a bit.

I'd like to give this an "A" but I can't find the "Rate match" button?


You have to vote on a winner first. From there, the Rate option will pop up.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:42 PM

You have to vote on a winner first. From there, the Rate option will pop up.

I did, but it wasn't there.




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