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Match 13316 Superman vs. Martian Manhunter


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#21 Dr. Pymp(mex)

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

It's the truth. All MM would have to do is go intangible, and then shut down Goku's mind. Stop jerking off to Goku, you are the broken record, man.

MM takes this. He has all of Superman's abilities and more. MM is under rated.



Hey Hays I didn't mention Goku you loser. Funny thing I haven't even been on here since all you guys sing the same lame ass tune. You sound lame man. This site would be cool if not for a bunch of losers like you.


MM is not under-rated, we don't all have to agree with you. I'm out of here guys, being back sure makes me realize that the real world is so much better than the rantings of little whiny kids

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:35 AM

this is a toss up either of them could win but superman has more ways to win.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:36 AM

He is more powerful than Xavier.

not realy name one thing that he has done that charles hasn't.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

not realy name one thing that he has done that charles hasn't.

A lot of Charles' better feats have come through the use of cerebro. MM doesn't need tech to boost his abilities.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

A preponderance of evidence is good, though your examples are sloppy. Darksied used a sophisticated brainwashing program, not telepathy.



I never said anything that could legitimately be interpreted as saying that the Martian Manhunter is not a powerful telepath. I have also never insulted you or said anything that was meant to be taken personally and I'm getting pretty tired of your abusive and condescending replies.


What? Take what personal? You took that previous post that seriously? Okay...

By the way my examples aren't sloppy. You can look them up and see for yourself what I am referring too. Superman has been taken control of with telepathy. He has shown to not have high defenses to telepathy. Martian Manhunter would take him down easily with telepathy. Even Manchester Black screwed around with Superman mentally using telepathy. Like making him think Lois Lane was dead in Superman: Ending Battle and more.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:44 AM

A lot of Charles' better feats have come through the use of cerebro. MM doesn't need tech to boost his abilities.

charles only needs cerebro because magneto has a field up around the entire planet limeting his abealities as a safe gaurd.
when charles is on diffrent planets he can effect the minds of there populations without the cerebro.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

No Magneto took down that field long ago. Charles Xavier has said himself he needs cerebro to enhance his powers. If Charles isn't using celebro alot of times he has another psychic helping him out. Charles is very powerful indeed but Manhunter is actually more powerful, more skilled, and more experience. Martian Manhunter has centuries of experience and skill over Charles Xavier.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:58 AM

No Magneto took down that field long ago. Charles Xavier has said himself he needs cerebro to enhance his powers. If Charles isn't using celebro alot of times he has another psychic helping him out. Charles is very powerful indeed but Manhunter is actually more powerful, more skilled, and more experience. Martian Manhunter has centuries of experience and skill over Charles Xavier.

we need to make another thread for this i want to keep this debate open but not ruin this thread i will make one.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:06 AM

we need to make another thread for this i want to keep this debate open but not ruin this thread i will make one.


Meh, we've had that debate a few times at EF already, but it doesn't matter to me. Besides, it may be good to revisit old matchups every now and then.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:28 AM

Hey Hays I didn't mention Goku you loser. Funny thing I haven't even been on here since all you guys sing the same lame ass tune. You sound lame man. This site would be cool if not for a bunch of losers like you.


MM is not under-rated, we don't all have to agree with you. I'm out of here guys, being back sure makes me realize that the real world is so much better than the rantings of little whiny kids

Jaegar said MM would handle Goku, too which you replied "you are a broken record"

Yeah, I know you think you're a bad ass but the little tantrum is as effective as slamming a revolving door. Please leave, no one gives a fack.

@Dinsdale- Baller is one of the more mild manner people on the site, I am more then sure he wasn't trying to attack you.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:48 AM

The funny thing is PympMex is clearly still sore over the fact that Superman would outright defeat Goku. Which would give cause as to why he'd attack me and Hayes what with insults unprovoked...

The tune is still being carried as per the recent DeathBattle and seeing as Martian Manhunter is essentially Superman with far more capabilities, it makes sense as to why he'd pop out of the blue, flame us not so subtly, insult us then leave... he should realize it's more like people akin to him that makes the site not so much fun nowadays... though I am glad he's one of the few that actually has the sense to leave so we don't have to deal with his whining. :)

Also I'm more in favor toward Martian Manhunter than Superman here.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

As much as I like Supes, he would eventually lose here. It would be a tough and long battle but MM would win. Supes has the strength and speed advantage but MM's other abilities would eventually give him the win.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:10 AM

Against Maxwell, he didn't use Torquasm Vo or Torquasm Rao, because he hadn't learned them yet. With those techniques, he's near invulnerable to telepathic assault however.

In fact, when Hector Hammond used a mind control machine, Superman proves immune to it even though Batman, Wonder Woman, and the Martian Manhunter couldn't resist it. Then Superman closes in on the source, making the mind control’s pull even stronger.... and still he is immune to its effects.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

telepathy is mm's only chance if that don't work supes will win he is stronger and faster when he isn't holding back
although mm still has a lot of defensive powers that can let him escape he could just phaze and supes can't hurt him.
but he has verry limited ways to beat superman.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

Maxwell Lord proves Superman doesn't have high defenses against telepathy. Hence why if Wonder Woman didn't kill Lord he would have never let go of Superman.

We have evidence from more then one story showing you Superman doesn't have high defenses against telepathy. Darkseid has controlled him, Maxwell Lord has controlled him, Despero nearly took control of him, and more. Yes Superman will be taken down easily by Martian Manhunter with telepathy.


You're picking some pretty bad examples to 'show' that Superman doesn't have high defenses against telepathy.

Maxwell Lord, while not a full telepath but purely mind control, is an extremely powerful mind-controller.
Darkseid's telepathy is highly powerful, and as someone already pointed out, he didn't just use his telepathy to control Superman.
And Despero is a telepath who is even more powerful than the Martian Manhunter.

Using those three as examples of 'low mental defenses', would be like saying that <insert arbitrary Marvel character> has low mental defenses because Charles Xavier was able to affect their minds.


As Force pointed out, Superman does actually have a very high level of mental defenses, in the form of his own will power, as well as his training in Torquasm-Vo, and to a lesser degree, Torquasm-Rao.

That said, the odds are in Martian Manhunter's favor, primarily due to his large variety of powers.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

Superman and MM butt*vulgarity* til the cows come home.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:02 AM

Aaah true I could have used better examples. As far as the whole Superman vs Goku thing Screwattack provided excellent examples of why Superman will be more powerful then Goku no matter what form he is in.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

Question; for the purpose of the match, does Martian Manhunter still have the vulnerability to fire?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

And Despero is a telepath who is even more powerful than the Martian Manhunter.

MM was the only one who could take him out by using a deus ex machina. MM had an ability that he could only use once that shut Despero down. That being said, J'onns full potential has yet to be seen, so who knows how many other telepathic abilities he is hiding.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

The funny thing is PympMex is clearly still sore over the fact that Superman would outright defeat Goku. Which would give cause as to why he'd attack me and Hayes what with insults unprovoked...

The tune is still being carried as per the recent DeathBattle and seeing as Martian Manhunter is essentially Superman with far more capabilities, it makes sense as to why he'd pop out of the blue, flame us not so subtly, insult us then leave... he should realize it's more like people akin to him that makes the site not so much fun nowadays... though I am glad he's one of the few that actually has the sense to leave so we don't have to deal with his whining. data:image/png;base64,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

Also I'm more in favor toward Martian Manhunter than Superman here.


Funny how I haven't even mentioned Goku at all, and this match is not even about him, yet you and your bf keep mentioning him. Oh and sore over Goku losing? haha, I could care less bro, its a comic, as in not real. Can you just get over it. Jump to that thread if you think I am sore and you won't find me talking about it either.

I will leave this site, if you think Its me that is making this site "less fun" then I respect that, but granted I don't visit this site much compared to you I doubt it. This site lost it's coolness the moment everyone got stuck pointing out the same 5 things over and over. I mean how many times can you read about the same thing without moving on?

Hayes needs a life and well you all do.




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