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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:38 PM

Yep, he easily wins with that.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:26 PM

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Impressive stuff. What comic is the first image of Namor punching Sentry from?

Namor at his strongest can hang with the most physically powerful superhumans on Marvel Earth.


Matter manipulation and high level telepathy, are two of the powers that Apocalypse has, which pretty much gives him an instant win.


I agree with the above. Namor is a physical powerhouse, but Apocalypse wins this via his myriad other abilities. If it were a purely physical fight it would be different, but as it is Apocalypse is too versatile for Namor.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:28 PM

Thing tried hitting a stable minded Sentry if I remember correctly whose power level was much higher. That's the difference. Namor was fighting a Sentry less stable minded and whose power level wasn't as high. Namor is on Thing's level since Thing defeated him it seems. Luke Cage I guess according to Marvel isn't far off either if Namor couldn't put him down with once punch and Cage was able to fight back.

Marvel doesn't keep to their character's power levels all the time. That's always been a problem with them. Shehulk, Thor, Sentry, Namor, and others are proof of that. It's actually very annoying.

not to menton that version of the thing was supposed to be from back in the 80's the thing's strength has grown a great deal since then more times then not the thing has proven to be namor's equal in strength .

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:30 PM

No.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:35 PM

I don't know about Thing's strength increasing but it seems right now he is on the same level as Namor if he can beat Namor underwater where Namor is suppose to be strongest. Sorry but Marvel seems to have it that way for now.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:37 PM

Low showing for The Avenging Son.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:42 PM

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:43 PM

Not the only one in recent years though which is the problem for Namor. AVP Wolverine has fought Namor and forced Namor to have to go underwater to become more powerful to defeat him. For every great feat of Namor their is a low one as well.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

No.

that sentry fight where the thing tries to keep sentry out of reed's lab and hits him and it does nothing was supposed to be back in the 70's or 80's it was current sentry but he went back in time for some reason i do not recall at the moment and that ben was an earlier version and it has been stated in many issues of fantastic 4 that ben's strength increases through excercise and absorbing more of the radation as he becomes older 2 issues where this is stated right off hand was issues 388 and 552.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:55 PM

Wow, Jean. They're havin' a field day, with this one. Carry on.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

Jean valjean? Where?!

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:34 PM

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That wasn't real, though.

Also, Namor has fought Wolverine and they seemed equal, and while i love Wolverine, that is just silly, considering Namor's sheer strength.

stuff that isn't the answer to my question


Dammit, man, what bloody comic was that image from?!

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:46 PM

Yes, but the point is that Wolverine is now bald and has no hair because Namor ripped it off.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

His healing factor's weaknesss, hair.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:41 AM

Trollolol.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:48 AM

For every great feat of Namor their is a low one as well.


And you know that goes for just about everyone right?

Namor gets embarrassed by Wolverine despite having been in brawls with guys like Thor, Beta Ray Bill and others. And yes, having won some of those(purely physical) fights
Sentry gets embarrassed by Hercules and She-Hulk(neither of whom could keep up with WWHulk) and yet fights evenly(or close to it) with WWHulk
Count Nefaria gets owned by the New Avengers despite laughing off attacks by Thor

Et cetera.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:29 AM

Fair point. I'll give you that.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

And you know that goes for just about everyone right?

Namor gets embarrassed by Wolverine despite having been in brawls with guys like Thor, Beta Ray Bill and others. And yes, having won some of those(purely physical) fights
Sentry gets embarrassed by Hercules and She-Hulk(neither of whom could keep up with WWHulk) and yet fights evenly(or close to it) with WWHulk
Count Nefaria gets owned by the New Avengers despite laughing off attacks by Thor

Et cetera.


That's why we (have to)go by either:
A: Their stated capabilities

or B: Specific versions of the characters. I.e. the character from a specific author(and that author's specific run).

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:24 PM

That's what I've been saying. Well trying to.

Namor is a class 100 "incalculable" strength according to Marvel at his strongest, which is why I say purely physically, he can hang with most of the other physical powerhouses. When they bring in their more versatile powers, like the Godblast(Thor) or matter manipulation(Sentry) or etc, yeah Namor gets his ass kicked.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:52 PM

Or *fake word*, because he doesn't have the speed to keep up with them.




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