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#21 skadoosh

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

Ha! No they wont. They might go through him, but that's fine, they would still leave holes in Voorhees nonetheless. Or they would just stay inside him. Either way, Voorhees is damaged, and it's been shown at least once, more, i think, that shooting Voorhees in the head, enough times, keeps the bugger down. So, seeing as Bourne has a gun and is extremely good at using it, he can win this. Easily.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

My head is about to explode from that silliness comic_book_fan is spouting.

People overstating Voorhees's durability is, without a doubt, my number one pet peeve on this or any other versus forum. It's infuriating.

I'll explain this very simply for you:

1.) Voorhees has a corporeal body that is made of flesh and bone, same as you or I. He's not made of steel, he's not freaking Colossus or The Thing. Nor is he a ghost, so bullets don't pass through him with no effect, either.

2.) However, he does not readily experience pain or shock from blood loss, etc. However, Freddy vs. Jason at the very least implies that he's not completely immune to blood loss.

3.) Therefore, in order to kill Jason, you simply have to do significant damage to his corporeal, non-bulletproof form.

Alright, so we've got that out of the way. The easiest way of taking him down would be to go for the head. For a marksman of Bourne's level, this is child's play. Voorhees has never been shown to continue operating after having his head removed. In fact, it instantly stopped him in Jason X.

And no, I don't really care that those weapons were futuristic. They didn't accomplish anything that couldn't be matched by modern firearms. I've got photos and videos to back that up, if you'd like.

So, Bourne keeps his distance from the machete-wielding man, pops him in both kneecaps to cripple him, and then empties his gun into Voorhees's head. Once a good portion of his cranium and brain matter has been scattered on the surrounding ground, he's going to go down. Hard.

To be honest, I would give this to Bourne even if the guy was unarmed. I wouldn't put it past him to use improvised weapons and the environment to put the slasher down.



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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:06 PM

Thank you.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:38 PM

No problem. This is, like I said, my biggest pet peeve in versus debates.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:49 PM

Voorhees: "Graaaaah!" *running ready to slash*

Bourne: *showing no fear just shoots him in the head, stomps on the neck of Voorhees then shoots him again in the head then walks away*

That's how the fight would go. Bourne > Voorhees

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:09 AM

Agreed. 'Cept Voorhees wouldn't run, because he can't.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:39 AM

And he also wouldn't make the "Graaaah" noise. Strong, silent type and all.

Although, he did run in the most recent film and, if I'm not mistaken, in some of the earlier films (number two and three I think, but don't quote me on that).

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 07:23 AM

He did run.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 07:46 AM

My head is about to explode from that silliness comic_book_fan is spouting.

People overstating Voorhees's durability is, without a doubt, my number one pet peeve on this or any other versus forum. It's infuriating.

I'll explain this very simply for you:

1.) Voorhees has a corporeal body that is made of flesh and bone, same as you or I. He's not made of steel, he's not freaking Colossus or The Thing.

2.) However, he does not readily experience pain or shock from blood loss, etc.

3.) Therefore, in order to kill Jason, you simply have to do significant damage to his corporeal, non-bulletproof form.

Alright, so we've got that out of the way. The easiest way of taking him down would be to go for the head. For a marksman of Bourne's level, this is child's play. Voorhees has never been shown to continue operating after having his head removed. In fact, it instantly stopped him in Jason X.

And no, I don't really care that those weapons were futuristic. They didn't accomplish anything that couldn't be matched by modern firearms. I've got photos and videos to back that up, if you'd like.

So, Bourne keeps his distance from the machete-wielding man, pops him in both kneecaps to cripple him, and then empties his gun into Voorhees's head. Once a good portion of his cranium and brain matter has been scattered on the surrounding ground, he's going to go down. Hard.

To be honest, I would give this to Bourne even if the guy was unarmed. I wouldn't put it past him to use improvised weapons and the environment to put the slasher down.

yes but in jason x he was shot with a weapon bourne doesn't have by a better marks men and a faster shot re watch the scene i watched it 3 times yesterday he was blasted by a female data with weapons that were not phazers but were highly more advanced then anything bourne has i am not saying blasting him to that extent wouldn't beat him i am saying that borune's weapons couldn't do that re watch the scene not to mention the farther jason is away from the lake the weaker he is he was in space in that scene .

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 07:51 AM

after looking at all the comments by others, its easily a no contest for Jason. (Bourne)

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:10 AM

you guys are acting like he is just a common zombie he isn't i suggest you guys watch his friday the 13th movies.
appearently you guys have never watched them.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:12 AM

I've seen them all on AMC this month and he gets beaten by teens. So in essence, someone like Jason Bourne would make him look stupid.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:23 AM

your right i mean it couldn't just be he has to lose for the movie to end and the guy kills an average of 17 people per film some of them adults see bourne has to win cause he is the good guy.
but here we are supposed to go by powers and feats and going by this bourne dies

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:29 AM

your right i mean it couldn't just be he has to lose for the movie to end and the guy kills an average of 17 people per film some of them adults see bourne has to win cause he is the good guy.
but here we are supposed to go by powers and feats and going by this bourne dies

at what time has Jason EVER killed anyone remotely close to Bourne's skill level. Answer is never. He is too fast and too smart for Voorhees to handle.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:10 AM

yes but in jason x he was shot with a weapon bourne doesn't have by a better marks men and a faster shot re watch the scene i watched it 3 times yesterday he was blasted by a female data with weapons that were not phazers but were highly more advanced then anything bourne has i am not saying blasting him to that extent wouldn't beat him i am saying that borune's weapons couldn't do that re watch the scene not to mention the farther jason is away from the lake the weaker he is he was in space in that scene .



Apparently my logic was too tough for you to handle. And secondly, in the name of all that is good in this world, SYNTAX man. Reading your posts is painful. Punctuation and basic grammar mechanics will get you far in life.

Aside from that... you have a lot of proof to provide with your claims here. For one, I have my doubts that even an android is definitively a better marksman than Bourne. You've clearly never watched the Bourne trilogy. You're forgetting that this guy shot a man in the head, one-handed, while riding a dead body down a long fall while under the stress of combat. The fact of the matter is that no one in Jason X, even the android, matched that feat.

Besides, compared to that accomplishment, shooting one slow, staggering target which makes no attempt to rush or move evasively is child's play for Bourne.

And you also now get to prove that the weapons in Jason X were so much more powerful and advanced than what we have today. Because if you want, I can show you pictures and video of what real-life weapons can do. I can even speak from limited personal experience. It's not pretty. Suffice it to say that there are plenty of modern firearms easily capable of tearing apart a human form in the same manner as the weapons from the film.

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and call blatant B.S. on your claim that "the further away he is from the lake the weaker he becomes". Because the fact of the matter is that that has never been stated or even implied throughout the entirety of the film series.

 

you guys are acting like he is just a common zombie he isn't i suggest you guys watch his friday the 13th movies.
appearently you guys have never watched them.



I've seen them. In fact, I used to be a huge fan of the series until fanboys like you ruined it for me. Clearly you've never seen the Bourne films or else you wouldn't be arguing against him.

 

your right i mean it couldn't just be he has to lose for the movie to end and the guy kills an average of 17 people per film some of them adults see bourne has to win cause he is the good guy.
but here we are supposed to go by powers and feats and going by this bourne dies



No dice, try again. P.I.S. is not a valid argument here. He has explicit limits to his durability; regardless of whether those limits were invented to suit the plot of the film, they can be used in this debate.

Yeah, and none of those seventeen people that he kills are Bourne or even remotely comparable to him. In fact, the vast majority of them are idiotic teenagers that should be locked in cells to keep from hurting themselves and others through their sheer, utter stupidity. The adults are equally stupid.

Every time Jason comes up against a respectable opponent, he gets thrashed. He had nothing on the telekinetic girl even before her ghostly father intervened. And are we forgetting the FBI from Jason Goes To Hell? What about Freddy?

You're ignoring all of our arguments because you can't stand the thought of Voorhees losing even though it's blatantly obvious he can't win this. It comes down to Voorhees not being bulletproof and Bourne not being an idiot. Those two things basically mean flawless victory for the latter.



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Posted 27 October 2012 - 06:12 PM

I'm giving this one to Bourne as well. The no-nonsense agent would learn very quickly not to waste bullets to the chest. Once he goes for joints and the head, Voorhes will be going down quickly.

I also have some problems with the depiction of Bourne. Besides what Avp said, Jason wouldn't be calling his enemy out like that. He'll do it stealthily, looking all over for him. Yeah, Voorhes is more likely to find Bourne first, but that's just my two cents on characterization.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:08 PM

Jason X is not canon to the Friday movies and Freddy vs Jason. That was another Jason who was a different entity. So using Jason X is pointless.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:15 PM

Jason X is not canon to the Friday movies and Freddy vs Jason. That was another Jason who was a different entity. So using Jason X is pointless.


Where is this stated?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:36 PM

In the Jason vs Jason X comics that confirmed it was a different Jason.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:38 PM

Yeah, Bourne has this for reasons plenty people have said...

Aaron Cross vs Jason Bourne? Can the young upstart to the Bourne series beat Bourne, or does the vet take it? -_-




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