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#1 Hayesmeister5651

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:22 PM

Most of you probably have heard of the Madden Curse. Just thought I'd like to see what you guys think of it. Here is a list of every player that has been on it, and what happened to them.
Prior to 1999, every annual installment of the Madden NFL series primarily featured Madden on its cover.[1][35] In 1999, Electronic Arts selected Garrison Hearst to appear on the PAL version's cover, and has since featured one of the league’s top players on every annual installment[36] despite Madden's opposition.[1]
While appearing on the cover has become an honor akin to appearing on the Wheaties box,[1] much like the Sports Illustrated Cover Jinx, certain players who appeared on Madden video game box art have experienced a decline in performance, usually due to an injury.
  • Garrison Hearst appearing on the 1999 PAL cover was known to be the "start" of the curse, as after his appearance, he broke his ankle and was out for two seasons, and his performance was never the same.
  • After Barry Sanders' appearance on the 2000 cover, Sanders abruptly retired before training camp,[37] falling just short of the record for most career rushing yards.
  • Dorsey Levens appeared on the PAL version of the 2000 game, and the Green Bay Packers, whom Levens was playing for at the time, failed to make the playoffs, and Levens was eventually released the year later.
  • After Eddie George appeared on the 2001 cover, the Tennessee Titans lost in the divisional round in the 2001 playoffs. Late in the 4th quarter with the Titans down 17–10, a Steve McNair pass was bobbled by George and intercepted by Ray Lewis for a touchdown, sealing the game. George also never averaged more than 3.4 yards per carry for the rest of his career.[38]
  • Daunte Culpepper led the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs in 2000, but after appearing on the Madden 2002 cover, he threw 23 interceptions as the Vikings slumped to a 5–11 record.[39] He also broke the record for most fumbles in a single season. While his career looked to be back on track in 2004 with a career season, he blew out both knees in 2005 and 2006 and never resembled the player he was at the start of the decade.
  • Marshall Faulk appeared on the 2003 cover, and his career (and the success of the St. Louis Rams) severely declined afterwards. He did not register another 1,000 yard rushing season and his yards per carry average dropped from a consistent 5.4 over the previous three years to 4.5 in 2002 and 4.0 in 2003 and 2004. He started 21 out of a possible 32 games from 2002–2003 as knee injuries got the better of him. He underwent reconstructive knee surgery in 2005 and retired that same year.[40] Since 2007, the Rams have a record of 15–65.
  • Ray Lewis, 2005 cover athlete and middle linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens, had his season cut short in week 15 with a wrist injury. [42] It was also Lewis' first season without an interception.
  • Running back Shaun Alexander, then the league's reigning Most Valuable Player, was featured on the cover of Madden NFL 07, and sustained a foot injury that caused him to miss six starts.[44] As a result, Alexander’s rushing statistics were substantially less than those from the previous season, and he never returned to true form.[44] Alexander himself has asked, “Do you want to be hurt and on the cover, or just hurt?"[45]
  • In 2007, GameSpot and CNBC reported that a large number of LaDainian Tomlinson's fans, who believed in the Madden Curse, were strongly opposed to EA Sports' initial decision to feature him on the 2008 cover, so much that a fan created SaveLTfromMadden.com to voice their disdain.[46][47][48] Tomlinson eventually declined the offer, but stated it was solely due to contract negotiations.[48]
  • Madden NFL 08's cover featured Vince Young, the starting quarterback of the Tennessee Titans. Young missed one game of the 2007 season due to a minor injury, but for the rest of the season was roughly even with his 2006 performance. When Young appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live! to officially announce that he would appear on the cover of Madden NFL 08, he derided allegations of becoming the curse’s next victim, and stated, “I've done prayed about it and we're gonna go home and try to get to the playoffs and try to get to the Super Bowl. We'll see what happens." [49][50] In contrast, Young suffered longer-term injuries in 2008 (from which he successfully came back in 2009) and 2010, which, combined with a coaching dispute, led to his departure from the Titans prior to the 2011 season.
  • Brett Favre appeared on the cover of Madden NFL 2009 as a Green Bay Packer, under the impression that Favre was retired. However, shortly after the decision, Favre came back out of retirement and was traded to the New York Jets,[51] where he was plagued by poor on-field performance and an off-field sexual harassment scandal.[52] He also suffered an ankle injury as a Jet and later suffered a shoulder injury as a Viking that would end his career.[53]
  • On September 10, 2009, Larry Fitzgerald, wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals and safety Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers, were both featured on the cover of Madden NFL 10. Polamalu sprained his MCL in the first half of the season opener and missed the next four games. After returning, Polamalu played in three more games before injuring his posterior cruciate ligament on November 14, 2009 against Cincinnati, and missed more games as a result. The Steelers went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. Fitzgerald, on the other hand, started all 16 regular season and both playoff games for the Cardinals. He did not attend the Pro Bowl due to a rib injury, leaving Steve Smith of the New York Giants to take his spot in the 2010 Pro Bowl. He recorded 97 receptions (third-most of his NFL career), 1,092 yards (fourth-most), and a career-high 13 touchdowns.[54]
  • Madden NFL 11 cover athlete Drew Brees played in every game of the 2010 NFL Season. However, he threw twice as many interceptions (22) that season than in the Saints' 2009 Super Bowl-winning campaign (11). Also, his Quarterback Rating dropped nearly 20 points, and the Saints lost in the first round of the playoffs to the 7-9 Seattle Seahawks, the only team to date to make the playoffs with a losing record in a full-length season. He made the 2011 Pro Bowl as a reserve, after being unable to participate in the 2010 Pro Bowl, as the Saints had made the Super Bowl. Brees played 6 weeks of the NFL Season with a torn MCL, a fact that was first outed by his teammate, Heath Evans,[55] later confirmed by another teammate, Jon Stinchcomb[56] and, eventually, Brees himself.[57] More recently, Brees's team, the New Orleans Saints, were implicated in a bounty scandal. The Saints lost draft picks, and head coach Sean Payton was suspended for the 2012 NFL season. Former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who was the subject of the scandal, has been suspended indefinitely.[58]
  • Madden NFL 12 cover athlete Peyton Hillis missed five games in the 2011 NFL season with a hamstring injury and missed one game with strep throat, causing his numbers to decline continuously after the second week. Hillis suffered a re-injury to his hamstring during practice before week nine. In addition, his divisive behavior in the Browns locker room during the season, particularly with regards to his contentious contract negotiations, were the subject of much media attention. Hillis eventually left the Browns, signing a with the Kansas City Chiefs during the off season as a free agent.[59] When asked about his significant decline, Hillis pointed towards the infamous Madden curse as a factor, saying "Things didn't work in my favor this year. There's a few things that happened this year that made me believe in curses. Ain't no doubt about it." [60]


Don't mock it.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:33 PM

You said you wanted to know what I thought about it, but then told me not to mock it. What the hell do you want me to do?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

Lolz

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:18 AM

Heh, the mocking thing was in jest.

Maybe it is all a big coincidence, but literally every cover player has been hurt. Even players have talked about it.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 11:45 AM

If I had to guess, I'd say they were on the covers of those games because they were displaying an amazing set of attributes at the time. Also, since no peak can last forever, their performances would fall respectively. Here's a hypothetical; maybe playing so good/roughly and training so hard wears your body out? *Shrugs*

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:34 PM

A combination of things.

1. It's a rough sport, so the chances of getting injured are pretty high.

2. The players tend to be a bit on the superstitious side, so it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy. They believe that the curse exists, which sub-consciously affects their performance. Starting as soon as they get on the cover(or perhaps as soon as they are informed that they will be on the cover), and getting progressively worse, until they get injured.


Nothing 'supernatural' in that.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:02 PM

The government did it. DUNNN DUN DUNNNNNN!

Sorry, that's where like half of these threads end up, so I was taking a 50/50 shot. I pretty much agree with what's been said already;

It's a high-injury sport, a lot of these are stretches including minor injuries, and injuries that happen in normal game play. It would be more supernatural if they didn't get injured. Seriously if the curse was that you never get injured once in a season after being the madden cover boy, players would be praying to ancient Sumarian gods in order to get picked.

Plus most of these guys are the big stars people know about, ie, quarterbacks, runningbacks, receivers. They're the ones who do the most running and the most getting tackled by giant men. In addition, since they're well known enough to be Madden covers, they're probably starters and are going to see a lot of games, and are statistically more likely to get injured.

Also some of these can't be traced back to the Madden curse. Marshall Faulk's performance declined because he declined. He was on the cover during his peak, and by definition you get worse after your peak. No super-rare injury, just the way athletes depreciate over time. Speaking of, Brett Farve. Brett had a bad season because he was old enough to have fathered someone of his teammates, and had just come out of retirement making him even rustier. He got into a sexual harassment scandal because he's an ass, not because of a curse. Same with Michael Vick and his dog-fighting.

Though it's not impossible that the 'curse' has some psychological effect on the players and becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as Methos said, making them treat an injury they would have gotten anyway as far more debilitating then it would have normally been, or blaming poor performance on the perception of a curse.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 02:14 PM

I was thinking more that their performance is affected.

I.e. they get on the cover, and with the "Madden Curse" in the back of their head, they start, sub-consciously, playing worse, acting in ways that are more likely to get them injured, without being consciously aware of it.

Basically a placebo effect.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

Well don't take it as a serious thing, people that have been playing madden have been talking about this for years.

Both of you gave some good answers. I thought the Mike WIlbon thing was nuts. He puts himself on the cover and a few weeks later suffers a mild heart attack.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:07 PM

Hey, Hayes, I've got your NFL curse.



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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:11 PM

The curse exists for one reason. To get people to stop making Madden games. Get the memo, game industry!

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:39 AM

Well one thing is for sure. Calvin Johnson was on this years cover and while not injured, is having one of his worst years ever. For others it would still be a good year but compared to his normal production it is a vast decline.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:05 PM

The curse exists for one reason. To get people to stop making Madden games. Get the memo, game industry!

Their sales disagree.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:03 PM

Whoa necro.
The Madden Curse is nonsense. Just think about it logically in terms of statistics:
You're a pretty good player who therefore attracts significant attention.
You have a great season well above your average (which is still above the league average).
You have another great season, even better than the previous one in fact.
You may even have another fantastic season.
As a result of your phenomenal performance, they decide to stick you on the cover of the newest Madden game.
The next year, big surprise, it turns out that you peaked and are going back to your normal playing average.

Essentially, this (the law of averages) says that you had some really great season based partly on skill and partly on chance but that chance component is more and more likely to disappear as time goes on.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:39 PM

Whoa necro.
The Madden Curse is nonsense. Just think about it logically in terms of statistics:
You're a pretty good player who therefore attracts significant attention.
You have a great season well above your average (which is still above the league average).
You have another great season, even better than the previous one in fact.
You may even have another fantastic season.
As a result of your phenomenal performance, they decide to stick you on the cover of the newest Madden game.
The next year, big surprise, it turns out that you peaked and are going back to your normal playing average.

It has happened to every cover player though. There are plenty of players(not on the cover) that have continued success. So you are saying it is just chance they all got hurt/sucked?

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:15 AM

Whoa necro.
The Madden Curse is nonsense. Just think about it logically in terms of statistics:
You're a pretty good player who therefore attracts significant attention.
You have a great season well above your average (which is still above the league average).
You have another great season, even better than the previous one in fact.
You may even have another fantastic season.
As a result of your phenomenal performance, they decide to stick you on the cover of the newest Madden game.
The next year, big surprise, it turns out that you peaked and are going back to your normal playing average.

Essentially, this (the law of averages) says that you had some really great season based partly on skill and partly on chance but that chance component is more and more likely to disappear as time goes on.

Its not that most just went back to a norm playing production. Its that they got hurt and missed a majority or all of the next season

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:12 AM

Sales make the game? That means Bieber is one of the best musicians ever!

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 12:03 PM

If you don't love the NFL, get the hell out of the United States. :)

I miss them having competition, though. It's the same way with the Baseball games. I can not stand the 2K games, but absolutely loved MLB 2005. Which was their last entry, before 2K got exclusive rights, if I'm not mistaken. Shame.




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