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Match 12720 Kingpin vs. Killer Croc

Kingpin vs Gotham: Match 2

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#21 Jaeger Panzer

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 03:47 PM

...I said Spiderman was frail power wise. It goes without saying he's frail because he's rather small and skinny. Thanks but I already am aware of this - I already highlighted that a bear hug would hurt Spiderman - even added in that it would do more so than a punch from The Kingpin. So why essentially repeat what was mentioned? More and more you make yourself seem more appropriate for the insult.

Killer Croc can be kicked back and moved by Batman as Batman is a trained, skilled martial artist, and he is in peak shape. So it will move Killer Croc around. But does it do any damage? No. So yes, please do educate yourself on the differences. Physically moving someone with a blow doesn't always translate to actual damage

I never said Spiderman had only peak human durability. If anything, what I said in my prior post proves otherwise: i.e. his being able to tank a direct punch from the likes of the Kingpin (as The Kingpin is actually superior to the average human peak status). So - learn to read or don't assume, either which or both...

Well, considering our difference in age, my being younger and you the elder, it's quite hilarious you would term this, since it's actually the reverse in this situation, me talking to a kid (you, in knowledge/intellect at the least).

Oh - also, Killer Croc's durability pretty much renders your whole point moot - he needs to have literal bombs to render him unconcious, which Kingpin lacks in strength of comparable power. A Bear Hug would be broken by Killer Croc and he'd easily tank a punch without a problem...

To make it simpler: Spiderman can't tank a C4 Explosion. Killer Croc can. Kingpin has no way of injuring him.

There, I hope it's all resolved and understood now.

#22 Dr. Pymp(mex)

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:09 PM

well yes, you make sense but that is not what I said, simply if you read I said that Kingpin has strength that is more than a regular guy. Croc can tank C-4 sure never said otherwise, just saying that AVP has no clue what a bear hug means (to squeeze via strength, which if he is able to do to someone like Spiderman man he can to the Croc.

he is 400 lbs of muscle, and can grab and throw Croc around. Batman being a great martial artist has nothing to do with him being able to knock someone like croc around, it is simply PIS

Can bruce lee's punch or kicks hurt a real croc? not really so that point is moot. I never said Kingpin would win, just that im surprised no one mentioned it. I never said that you said that Spiderman had only peak strength, but for him to catch Peter (meaning Kingpin) he has surprisngly fast moves so hes not just some fat guy (he is not fat at all)

once again it takes great strength to hurt Spiderman (or crush him) and Peter is stronger than Croc. Just saying

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:13 PM

It's mass. Not strength. For all intents and purposes, Kingpin smushes him with his bulk.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:36 PM

It's mass. Not strength. For all intents and purposes, Kingpin smushes him with his bulk.


I don't think it's even that much about his bulk. Remember that Kingpin was bear-hugging a teenaged Spider-Man, who strength was considerably below the 10 tons that he's at now as an adult.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:47 PM

D, he also was bear hugging Spiderman when he was at 25 ton range during the 1996 run.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:29 PM

Need you be reminded of this? There is alot more to this ass whipping too.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:06 PM

No, having trained in Martial Arts has everything to do with it.

You'd know this if you actually practice Martial Arts - it lets people focus their kicks and blows and maximize their effectiveness and increase their capability... so it definitely is a factor and isn't PIS. -.-

And you're ignoring the fact that Killer Croc dwarfs The Kingpin which makes it nigh impossible for him to be bear hugged, ignoring the fact that The Kingpin is only at best peak human strength overall (he did use his mass on Parker due to his size, Parker's a toothpick while The Kingpin is a massive muscled dude (I also already mentioned that he wasn't fat previous page)) while Killer Croc is easily several tons and his durability dwarfs Peter's (meaning if he were to be bearhugged... odds are it'd not even hurt him. Not that he could be bear hugged anyhow.)

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:27 PM

Once again AVP you are dumb, do you even know basic things like strength? bear hugging someone is using strength dummy. Stick to your Predators things since you proven you are an idiot.

You need great strength to bear hug and hurt Spiderman, and if you read a comic you will know that King Pin can break metal chains. Croc looses to Batman and Batman has been kicked by him and toppled, so don't give me 10 tons crap as a cop out.

I am not saying Kingpin wins, just surprised (not anymore) that some people give hand jobs to DC people all the time.

Croc is stronger(10 tonner post Hush), faster, more durable, has razor sharp claws and teeth, and a healing factor. Batman has to use explosives to knock him out.

Kingpin can break chains, big deal. Croc casually rips off bank vault doors. You admittedly don"t read DC so how do you know how the fights between Croc and Batman go?

Looking at their stated abilities and feats, it is clear Waylon wins here. Why even act like DC always wins? I see Marvel characters being argued for all the time. Stop being bias.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:40 PM

you don't get it Im not saying that Kingpin would win guys, I simply wanted to point out that Wilson was more powerful (strength wise) than even Batman


Oh and I do train MMA,so I know no matter how well trained you are, if someone is superhuman (like Croc is)no kick will hurt him, or move him, Batman doing so is pretty much PIS all over it.

Now you can increase your own power by amplifying your momentum and form to go beyond your normal limits (breaking wood, etc.)

Oh and I have read DC, just don't care much for it, I have a few DC, mostly just the mainstream ones and I admit that I don't know anyone's full bios, but know the likes of Superman and Batman and their immediate foes bios.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:47 PM

i think the answer is simple, killer croc, he's about the same srength as this fat bozo maybe stronger, actually eats people, has claws, and like before teeth, swims good (like a crocadile) so if this fight goes to water then yeah but what are the chances of that if croc is smart enough (which he isn't) idk i'm just saying croc's got this i could rant all day, but i won't cause the true victor is croc

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:00 AM

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

now that i saw part 1 i see how this should go-

batman and elektra realize they have the same goal, stop kingpin, team up and hunt him down to find that croc ate him alive so batman beats croc and takes him to arkham then makes love with elektra cause he's a pimp but then daredevil finds out and they fight, whoever wins makes love with elektra again :P lol it's true am i right or am i right

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:24 AM

you don't get it Im not saying that Kingpin would win guys, I simply wanted to point out that Wilson was more powerful (strength wise) than even Batman


Oh and I do train MMA,so I know no matter how well trained you are, if someone is superhuman (like Croc is)no kick will hurt him, or move him, Batman doing so is pretty much PIS all over it.

Now you can increase your own power by amplifying your momentum and form to go beyond your normal limits (breaking wood, etc.)

Oh and I have read DC, just don't care much for it, I have a few DC, mostly just the mainstream ones and I admit that I don't know anyone's full bios, but know the likes of Superman and Batman and their immediate foes bios.



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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

WRONG YOUR WRONG CAUSE YOUR WRONG WRRROOOONNNNGGGG

Actually, it's spelled "YOU'RE". Seriously though, if you keep doing that, you'll lose all your credibility here.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:00 PM

now that i saw part 1 i see how this should go-

batman and elektra realize they have the same goal, stop kingpin, team up and hunt him down to find that croc ate him alive so batman beats croc and takes him to arkham then makes love with elektra cause he's a pimp but then daredevil finds out and they fight, whoever wins makes love with elektra again lol it's true am i right or am i right

There's a good chance that since Batman is indeed a Bat-whore, that there is a possible love interest in the making. Haven't fully decided yet. However I can assure you there will be no Daredevil.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:37 PM

Classic Fisk beats classic Croc. Current Croc beats current Fisk. Current Croc against classic Fisk would be an interesting fight.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:58 PM

Current Croc would flatten any and all incarnations of Wilson Fisk.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 07:15 PM

Match Final Results
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Kingpin: 7
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FPA: 3.5


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:32 AM

you don't get it Im not saying that Kingpin would win guys, I simply wanted to point out that Wilson was more powerful (strength wise) than even Batman


Oh and I do train MMA,so I know no matter how well trained you are, if someone is superhuman (like Croc is)no kick will hurt him, or move him, Batman doing so is pretty much PIS all over it.

Now you can increase your own power by amplifying your momentum and form to go beyond your normal limits (breaking wood, etc.)

Now lets think clearly. Others already stated the punches and kicks dont hurt Croc, but they can move him when connecting. The hit compared to the mass is a big factor. While Waylon is superhuman in strength his actual size is not huge. The momentum and power behind the punches and kicks can move him around an area. Also he has a human anatomy and it can be manipulated joint strikes. Any "real" fighter knows that.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 11:11 AM

Actually they retconned Waylon - he's apparently a descendant of some sort of reptilian ancestor of the human race or something...

So his mutation may have changed his anatomy...




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