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Match 12560 Trunks vs. Superboy (Kon-el)


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#61 Nova Force Nova

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:28 AM

The Trunks that pissed on Broly is the same one that outsmarted a genius, makes his future self seem dumb in comparison.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:30 AM

Huh?

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:30 AM

While Superboy may not be on Lex Luthors level of intelligence he does possess a great mind.

Another problem would be that Trunks could not block and attack from Superboy. His only defense would be to completely avoid his punches and kicks. If he tried to block it, it could result in his arm or leg bones being shattered by the impact

Also dont forget that Superboy can project TK blasts as well
  • Telekinetic Force Blasts: Superboy also learned that he could project burst of raw psionic energy bolts from Knockout as well. He mostly projects the energy from his hands but it is assumed that he could project them from anywhere since his Tactile TK field permeates from his entire body. The blasts he emits have concussive force equivalent to 5,000 pounds of TNT, but it is speculated that as he grows older this force amount could grow and change along with him.
  • Telekinetic Heat Vision: After the Flashpoint event Superboy`s TK allows him to rapidly vibrate the molecules in the air to the point that they combust, while it may not be heat vision in the general sense it still was enough to set a Large Christmas tree aflame.


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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:34 AM

The same Trunks that pissed on Broly is the same one that outsmarted a genius, making the time traveling Trunks seem dumb in comparison. How can I put that in simpler terms?

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:36 AM

What genius?

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:36 AM

That was both nonsensical, and worded poorly. :P

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:37 AM

Dr. Myuu.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:40 AM

Ah. I thought you were referring to something, from when he was a child.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:42 AM

Also, I believe that Trunks is not far behind Future Trunks in intelligence as a kid.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:45 AM

Probably not. The pee instance was a one-time thing, anyways. :P

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:47 AM

Yep, just like Future Trunks's genius strategy to stop the Androids, warning everyone instead of just killing Dr Gero or his other genius strategy to beat Cell, becoming the anime Hulk and not realizing he'd be fucking slow. Just one time things, that's all.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:50 AM

Lol. Again, he needed to find a way to stop the androids in his time. Just killing Gero wouldn't have helped him, at all.

Also, I think Broly owns that title. :P

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:53 AM

Killing Gero at the right time...as in when the blueprints were complete, to find weaknesses.

Bah, there are 50 billion different comic Hulks, DBZ can have 2.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:04 AM

Eh. Who even knows if that would've worked. For one, he didn't know where the lab was. Two, even if he got the blueprints, who says they have a weakness? Get stronger, kick enemy's ass. Seems to be the DBZ formula.

Bah, there are 50 billion different comic Hulks, DBZ can have 2.

Heh.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:08 AM

The actual DB formula is find enemies, kick ass, heel face turn, rinse and repeat.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:15 AM

"While Superboy may not be on Lex Luthors level of intelligence he does possess a great mind. "

That's true. Which is why I said "arguably smarter", instead of just plain "smarter".


"Another problem would be that Trunks could not block and attack from Superboy. His only defense would be to completely avoid his punches and kicks. If he tried to block it, it could result in his arm or leg bones being shattered by the impact"

Not quite, he could also deflect the punches.


"Also dont forget that Superboy can project TK blasts as well
  • Telekinetic Force Blasts: Superboy also learned that he could project burst of raw psionic energy bolts from Knockout as well. He mostly projects the energy from his hands but it is assumed that he could project them from anywhere since his Tactile TK field permeates from his entire body. The blasts he emits have concussive force equivalent to 5,000 pounds of TNT, but it is speculated that as he grows older this force amount could grow and change along with him.
  • Telekinetic Heat Vision: After the Flashpoint event Superboy`s TK allows him to rapidly vibrate the molecules in the air to the point that they combust, while it may not be heat vision in the general sense it still was enough to set a Large Christmas tree aflame."
The TK blast has an extremely short range. And the Telekinetic Heat Vision is only a New 52(post-flashpoint) thing. Pre-Flashpoint Superboy has actual Heat Vision, which is considerably more impressive than the TK Heat Vision thing.

But if we are using the new 52 version of Superboy, then Trunks' chances of winning just disappeared.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:15 AM

Oh shit I got confused with Second Coming of Broly.

Meant Future Trunks xD And my point for Future was that he didn't exactly master it but I guess that's all moot now :/

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:12 AM

is this following statement correct?


As a partial genetic clone of Superman, he has most of the physical abilities of a Kryptonian who has absorbed the solar energy of a yellow sun. However, due to the human DNA supplied by Lex Luthor, he lacks the more advanced powers of flight and heat vision and presumably is incapable of ever acquiring them.[7] In addition, his existing powers are considerably inferior to Superman's.[11]

if so Trunks wins even with Superboy's high invulnerability.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:15 AM

Match Final Results
USER RATINGS
D Barely good enough for a rumble, not a match.
C cool fight
SCORE
Trunks: 20
Superboy (Kon-el): 14
FPA: 1.5


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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:20 AM

and if this is kid trunks, of course he is not smarter, but given the trunks is an adult here, even GT Trunks is, at least in the sense that he will know to treat Superboy as a threat and not go balls outs (DBZ pun)

I do not think Trunks was stronger than Goku, but he is also not that much weaker if any, in fact Goku SSJ1 is actually the weakess (if you put Goku SSJ1 when he fought Frieza) with even Gotens SSJ when he trains with Gohan for the tournament in the Pre-Buu Sagas, then yes Goku is weaker




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