Also, just to clarify, all of the short stories collected here are considered FPL continuity (thus far.) If anyone wants to start writing I'd suggest this thread as a great starting point. Just please remember to read the rules.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 09:24 PM
Hmmm... So some specific things that I could make assumptions about but I'd rather be safe.
How do people in Khazan feel about homosexuality, transsexuals, transgenders, fetishes, etc.? What about sexism and gender roles? Sex ed: do they have it, have issues with parents about it, have instituted guidelines on how and what they teach about it?
Assuming someone had great wealth and status, would they be able to get away with murder or domestic abuse? How corruptible is the legal system? How protected are children from abuse?
How do people in Khazan feel about homosexuality, transsexuals, transgenders, fetishes, etc.? What about sexism and gender roles? Sex ed: do they have it, have issues with parents about it, have instituted guidelines on how and what they teach about it?
Assuming someone had great wealth and status, would they be able to get away with murder or domestic abuse? How corruptible is the legal system? How protected are children from abuse?
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:21 PM
Hmmm... So some specific things that I could make assumptions about but I'd rather be safe.
How do people in Khazan feel about homosexuality, transsexuals, transgenders, fetishes, etc.? What about sexism and gender roles? Sex ed: do they have it, have issues with parents about it, have instituted guidelines on how and what they teach about it?
Assuming someone had great wealth and status, would they be able to get away with murder or domestic abuse? How corruptible is the legal system? How protected are children from abuse?
Oddly, the "traditional" Khazan morality is somewhat functionalist, and because bearing offspring is considered a societal contribution, any one who is unable to do so (as a result of sexual preference, infertility, being an undead cyborg, or what have you) bears a heavier expectation to contribute to some other aspect of Khazanian progress and prosperity. Obviously there are individuals whose religious beliefs are the root of various prejudices, but GLBT folks aren't any more persecuted than any other "controversial" social minority (like vampires or Babylon 5 fans.)
Sexism, (like any other "-ism") certainly exists on an individual basis, but Khazan's Parliament has several female members, as well as the occasional non-human. Gender expectations, once again, vary from person to person, but women on average statistically make 90% of their male counterparts, so the case could be made for sexism, although the gap is smaller than in other places in the world.
Educational curriculum in Khazan varies greatly from province to province, and although there is a fairly stringent national standard, sex education in particular is left entirely up to provincial governments to mandate. Khazanians, as you know, think nothing of moving across the country to live amongst those with similar political beliefs, so parental protestation of any subject matter is a rarity.
Money is one of many avenues one might take to try and "get away with murder" as it were, and historically it has shown to have some success. However, just like in the real world, sufficient planning, luck, reputation, etc can achieve the same effect.
In the Khazanian Justice system, the people vote for local judges, who then, as a council appoint local parliamentary representatives. Since the directly-elected judges operate on such a microcosmic scale, corruption is inevitable but generally implies majority-consent of said constituency. Much like the labor union National One, the Khazan Parliament is faced with the impossible task or placating hundreds of very specific local interests. When possible the means and authority to solve these issues is delegated back down to the local level. When it isn't, Parliament is faced with acting in the best interest of the nation as a whole.
Domestic abuse is an unfortunately just as much an issue in Khazan as elsewhere. There government reserves the right to remove children from a home and place them in one of the military academies in The March. These schools traditionally have some of the highest test scores in the nation, and underprivileged families are able (and often willing) to appeal to the state for provisional placement, provided the students maintain a specific GPA and behavioral standard.
Students who graduate on scholarship from The March begin their adult lives with a debt to the state. As you might've guessed, this is pretty common state of affairs, and Khazan has something of a national deficit (although it is currently less than two billion dollars.)
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:53 PM
What does Khazan think about aliens and I mean any kind or meaning what so ever?
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What does Khazan think about aliens and I mean any kind or meaning what so ever?
"The Truth is Out There."
Immigrants, be they from Mexico or Alpha Centauri, have one of four options. The first is to request "visitor" status, which includes tourists, students, and the like. This is like an immigration day-pass, and even though import/export laws are fairly relaxed, the government does keep detailed records of when folks officially enter and leave the country. The second is to request "asylum" status, which results in a modicum of governmental protection but also specifically implies confinement to a specific area between Lowtown and The March. The third is a provisional temporary visa most commonly for employment, diplomatic, or marriage purposes, or for those who wish to apply for citizenship (there are other circumstances when this is offered.) The fourth, and probably the easiest method is just to sneak into the country unannounced. This is pretty common, although the punishments for repeat offenders are left up to the arresting officer (since the offenders aren't Khazanian citizens they aren't afforded as many liberties.) This means the punishment could end up being pretty... undesirable...
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Posted 14 November 2009 - 10:19 AM
In the Khazanian Justice system, the people vote for local judges, who then, as a council appoint local parliamentary representatives. Since the directly-elected judges operate on such a microcosmic scale, corruption is inevitable but generally implies majority-consent of said constituency. Much like the labor union National One, the Khazan Parliament is faced with the impossible task or placating hundreds of very specific local interests. When possible the means and authority to solve these issues is delegated back down to the local level. When it isn't, Parliament is faced with acting in the best interest of the nation as a whole.
But Khazan does have the equivalent of a federally appointed bench circuit to limit the corruption of elected officials and also hear issues that henge on federal statutes as opposed to local statutes and common laws. There is an appeals process and a supreme court equivalent as well. (Since all English speaking countries have some derivative of the United Kingdom's legal system.)
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 06:27 PM
But Khazan does have the equivalent of a federally appointed bench circuit to limit the corruption of elected officials and also hear issues that henge on federal statutes as opposed to local statutes and common laws. There is an appeals process and a supreme court equivalent as well. (Since all English speaking countries have some derivative of the United Kingdom's legal system.)
...yeah. of course they have that. Wouldn't make sense at all, not having something like that. Only stands to reason. Naturally they... what he said.
Uhh... ok. So Khazanians aren't a particularly litigious society, but the country has fully embraced the concept of judicial review. The constitutional court is also the highest appellate court, and I'll let Houdinimachine come up with a fancy-sounding name.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:45 PM
...yeah. of course they have that. Wouldn't make sense at all, not having something like that. Only stands to reason. Naturally they... what he said.
Uhh... ok. So Khazanians aren't a particularly litigious society, but the country has fully embraced the concept of judicial review. The constitutional court is also the highest appellate court, and I'll let Houdinimachine come up with a fancy-sounding name.
I'm not trying to nerd you out or anything, but it'd be completely ridiculous for a civilized nation not to have a Supreme Court equivalent and government appointed judicial figures.
Anyway. Moving on to what color of Pokemon Khazan is up to.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 10:34 PM
Electrum.
Also, the finer points of the judiciary remain something of a mystery to me, is all. I'd be more than happy if you were architect of Khazan's legal system.
Also, the finer points of the judiciary remain something of a mystery to me, is all. I'd be more than happy if you were architect of Khazan's legal system.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 05:44 PM
Just re-read a lot of this and I love the backstory.
You mentioned the fact that US troops that were of sufficient caliber can be “upgraded” to meta-human status. Through what way is this done? Magic, Technology, or a mix of the two? And in what was are the soldiers then listed as? Part of the meta-human populace or as normal humans with additional powers. And can they be removed once they are fully initiated?
And are said upgraded soldiers Allowed to keep powers once they retire from military life? If so are they allowed to reveal those powers to the general public?
You mentioned the fact that US troops that were of sufficient caliber can be “upgraded” to meta-human status. Through what way is this done? Magic, Technology, or a mix of the two? And in what was are the soldiers then listed as? Part of the meta-human populace or as normal humans with additional powers. And can they be removed once they are fully initiated?
And are said upgraded soldiers Allowed to keep powers once they retire from military life? If so are they allowed to reveal those powers to the general public?
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 01:40 PM
Hey, would it be cool if I made the Khazan Police department a team? (Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but I wasn't sure it warranted it's own topic)
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(I need to go back through and deleted a LOT of the information in this thread, especially the military stuff.)
Hmm... I don't see an issue with this, as long as it's inclusive, not exclusive. Just make sure you're accepting membership of pretty much anyone who wants to join. Like any big city, there are thousands of police officers working the streets. NYC and LA have about a 1:400 ratio of cops to citizens (which is actually really low, Chicago has closer to 1:200 ratio) so assuming a progressive city like Khazan with plenty of public funding we'll put it at 1:300, which means that Khazan in total has over 10,000 officers. They are divided in five District Bureaus (Central, North, South, East, and West) which are then divided into numbered precincts. Officer Lydia Kaye, for example, works in 11th Precinct, Khazan East District. In addition to standard officers, and detectives there are specialized divisions, including mounted, K-9, armored, SWAT, air support, counter terrorism, etc. There is also a Psychic Crimes division and a specific highly-trained metahuman response unit.
One special KPD division that doesn't exist in real life is SCRIPT, the Scientific Crime Response Initiative Police Taskforce, which specifically deals with the messes left by superscience. These guys address issues like that unstable white matter reactor the HarChem corporation is keeping in a bunker six floors below Downtown Khazan, or how to disable the cloud of carbon-devouring nano spores currently leaking out of the overturned wartank on the Cavendish expressway, or what to do with the late Dr. Mutatio's orphaned Chimera children, each one with the strength of 30 forklifts.
Hmm... I don't see an issue with this, as long as it's inclusive, not exclusive. Just make sure you're accepting membership of pretty much anyone who wants to join. Like any big city, there are thousands of police officers working the streets. NYC and LA have about a 1:400 ratio of cops to citizens (which is actually really low, Chicago has closer to 1:200 ratio) so assuming a progressive city like Khazan with plenty of public funding we'll put it at 1:300, which means that Khazan in total has over 10,000 officers. They are divided in five District Bureaus (Central, North, South, East, and West) which are then divided into numbered precincts. Officer Lydia Kaye, for example, works in 11th Precinct, Khazan East District. In addition to standard officers, and detectives there are specialized divisions, including mounted, K-9, armored, SWAT, air support, counter terrorism, etc. There is also a Psychic Crimes division and a specific highly-trained metahuman response unit.
One special KPD division that doesn't exist in real life is SCRIPT, the Scientific Crime Response Initiative Police Taskforce, which specifically deals with the messes left by superscience. These guys address issues like that unstable white matter reactor the HarChem corporation is keeping in a bunker six floors below Downtown Khazan, or how to disable the cloud of carbon-devouring nano spores currently leaking out of the overturned wartank on the Cavendish expressway, or what to do with the late Dr. Mutatio's orphaned Chimera children, each one with the strength of 30 forklifts.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 04:21 PM
(I need to go back through and deleted a LOT of the information in this thread, especially the military stuff.)
Hmm... I don't see an issue with this, as long as it's inclusive, not exclusive. Just make sure you're accepting membership of pretty much anyone who wants to join. Like any big city, there are thousands of police officers working the streets. NYC and LA have about a 1:400 ratio of cops to citizens (which is actually really low, Chicago has closer to 1:200 ratio) so assuming a progressive city like Khazan with plenty of public funding we'll put it at 1:300, which means that Khazan in total has over 10,000 officers. They are divided in five District Bureaus (Central, North, South, East, and West) which are then divided into numbered precincts. Officer Lydia Kaye, for example, works in 11th Precinct, Khazan East District. In addition to standard officers, and detectives there are specialized divisions, including mounted, K-9, armored, SWAT, air support, counter terrorism, etc. There is also a Psychic Crimes division and a specific highly-trained metahuman response unit.
One special KPD division that doesn't exist in real life is SCRIPT, the Scientific Crime Response Initiative Police Taskforce, which specifically deals with the messes left by superscience. These guys address issues like that unstable white matter reactor the HarChem corporation is keeping in a bunker six floors below Downtown Khazan, or how to disable the cloud of carbon-devouring nano spores currently leaking out of the overturned wartank on the Cavendish expressway, or what to do with the late Dr. Mutatio's orphaned Chimera children, each one with the strength of 30 forklifts.
This sounds really interesting. Particularly the specially-trained divisions. So, will you be revising the information on Khazan's military as well?
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 05:43 PM
In a manner of speaking. If, for you, revising= completely removing, then yes, I'm revising it.
The problem with most of this is that it's way too exclusive. I wanted to create a detailed world, but that means creating a complicated world. The inner workings of Khazan's political system, for example, work best for continuity when they are too simple to be realistic. Ditto the country's financial sector, military, infrastructure, etc. I will be keeping some, of what is there, but everything about Russia and China and the US and UK etc, that was just an extrapolation of what I thought a realistic historical reactionary standpoint would be to having superheroes. It doesn't work for mass storytelling. When I have the time, maybe this weekend, I'll consolidate all the relevant stuff here into one legit post and erase everything else.
The problem with most of this is that it's way too exclusive. I wanted to create a detailed world, but that means creating a complicated world. The inner workings of Khazan's political system, for example, work best for continuity when they are too simple to be realistic. Ditto the country's financial sector, military, infrastructure, etc. I will be keeping some, of what is there, but everything about Russia and China and the US and UK etc, that was just an extrapolation of what I thought a realistic historical reactionary standpoint would be to having superheroes. It doesn't work for mass storytelling. When I have the time, maybe this weekend, I'll consolidate all the relevant stuff here into one legit post and erase everything else.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 05:49 PM
In a manner of speaking. If, for you, revising= completely removing, then yes, I'm revising it.
The problem with most of this is that it's way too exclusive. I wanted to create a detailed world, but that means creating a complicated world. The inner workings of Khazan's political system, for example, work best for continuity when they are too simple to be realistic. Ditto the country's financial sector, military, infrastructure, etc. I will be keeping some, of what is there, but everything about Russia and China and the US and UK etc, that was just an extrapolation of what I thought a realistic historical reactionary standpoint would be to having superheroes. It doesn't work for mass storytelling. When I have the time, maybe this weekend, I'll consolidate all the relevant stuff here into one legit post and erase everything else.
Understood. I suppose this would give individual storytellers a bit more leeway in designing the world around their tale, to an extent.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 05:52 PM
Aye, it's understandable why you're deleting it. A real shame though, I found the detailed, intricate world a really interesting framework to work in.
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