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Match 12458 Juggernaut vs. Doctor Manhattan


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#21 skadoosh

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 05:02 PM

Anyone have examples of situations where Cyttorak saves Juggernaut?
I gotta admit. I'm definitely leaning towards Dr. Manhattan in this.


That's exactly how i feel.

MANHATTAN TURNS CYTORRACK INTO PUPPY


Interesting, if insanely written, point, actually. Could Manhattan beat Cyttorack..?

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:55 PM

Is Cain immune to transmutation? Because that's the only thing I can think of that would trump perfect invulnerability, if this is Juggs at his apex. Otherwise, Manhattan just holds Cain in the air until they both get bored.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:59 AM

Eighth Day Juggernaut would actually crush Dr. Manhattan :D

Unless Big Blue Dong decided to avoid that version of Juggernaut altogether.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:11 AM

Is Cain immune to transmutation? Because that's the only thing I can think of that would trump perfect invulnerability, if this is Juggs at his apex. Otherwise, Manhattan just holds Cain in the air until they both get bored.


No, he's not immune to that or any of the other tricks Manhattan can throw at him, like teleporting him into the middle of the sun, or turning his skin into bananas, or just vaporizing him entirely.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:42 AM

Actually he would be immune to the sun or the banana trick - he'd easily leave the pull of the Sun and he's literally been reduced to Skeleton by a being who stole his power... and proceeded to whup his ass as said skeleton.

Again, it all depends on how much power Cyttorak grants Cain. If it's just the bare minimum, he loses, if it's the max, Manhattan gets his shit kicked.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:02 AM

I wasn't being very serious, Manhattan could obliterate Juggs in many ways, but ok.

What can Juggs do to Manhattan with a boost from Cyttorak, then?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:25 AM

Juggernaut could really get out from the center of the Sun? How? The gravity alone should just pin him. I thought his power was once he moves, he couldn't be stopped. But if he's in the sun, he shouldn't be moving. Also, how could he fight as a skeleton with no muscles? Maybe I'm thinking about this in the wrong ways. If you said, he did it, I can't really dispute it.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:28 AM

I'd imagine it was through the power of Cyttorak (someone who dwarfs the likes of Dr. Strange and even Dormammu in terms of power)?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:43 AM

whats with my warn status what did i say

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:50 AM

Yeah, Juggy himself can't do those things and get out of those situations himself, but Cyttorak helps him out when he needs it, conveniently.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:56 AM

Cyttorak must get pretty tired of having to bail Jugs out all the time.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 12:04 PM

I would assume so.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:48 PM

It's Comics, FTANG. They violate logic itself.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:42 PM

like teleporting him into the middle of the sun,


Oh, right. After I read the Adamantium Walls thing I guess I assumed the whole fight was supposed to be just in the room.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

Oh, right. After I read the Adamantium Walls thing I guess I assumed the whole fight was supposed to be just in the room.


Teleporting Juggs somewhere has nothing to do with what the walls are made of... Duh. And if the fight is limited to just the one room, somehow, then Manhattan can just turn Juggs into bacon, anyway.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:30 AM

And Baconnaut proceeds to fight Manhattan Vegito style :P

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:13 AM

Baconnaut


I really wanna see what that guy looks like.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:02 PM

Teleporting Juggs somewhere has nothing to do with what the walls are made of... Duh.

Yeah. Thanks. That's the mistake I just admitted to.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:34 PM

I thought you were being sarcastic. Still do, kinda.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:59 PM

Guys, Cyttorak is like some magical other dimensional deity. Don't try to get the physics or logic of it.

Having said that, I'm not sure how one would defeat Dr. M. Aside from beating the crap out of stuff, Juggernaut's move list is pretty short.

I'm voting Manhatten, but the CBUB should not underestimate Cyttorak.




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