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Match 12379 Beta Ray Bill and Red Hulk vs. Superboy-Prime


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#1 Odin

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:58 PM

Superboy Prime has escaped his prison from the green lanterns and has decided that this is not the dimension for him so after laying waste to his captors he switches dimensions.

Superboy Prime ends up in the marvel 616 universe and befriends anihilus and truly enjoys conquering worlds and living in this universe. After about a year Annihilus sends Superboy Prime on a mission to kill one of his advisarys known as Beta Ray Bill. It takes several weeks to track down Beta Ray Bill on a planet called mars in the milky way Galaxy. There battle is great one that lasts nearly an hour before Beta Ray Bill fears he may need some help to take down this foe. Bill then flies to earths Avengers mansion with his enemy right behind him. Upon reaching Avengers Mansion Bill finds the only avenger in the building is the Red Hulk. After a very quick conversation bill has a new ally in the Red Hulk. All of a sudden Superboy prim lands on the mansion destroying it completely. In the rubble we see three warriors standing there ready to do battle.

No help from anyone else this is the superboy from crisis on infinite earths and regular Beta Ray Bill and Red Hulk.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:58 PM

Learn More About
Beta Ray Bill
Read more about Beta Ray Bill at Wikipedia
Official Site: Marvel Comics Links: Wikipedia Entry Marvel.com Link Marvel Directory

Red Hulk
Read more about Red Hulk at Wikipedia
Official Site: Marvel Comics Links: Wikipedia Marvel Database Wapedia

Superboy-Prime
Read more about Superboy-Prime at Wikipedia
Official Site: DC Comics Links: Superboy-Prime's Wiki Profile Superboy-Prime's Origin DC's Infinite Crisis Site



#3 sirmethos

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 01:36 PM

Superboy-Prime wins. Easily.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 02:21 PM

The set-up was really short, and could have used a lot of work. It wasn't really much of a story, it just told us what was happening. It could have been better described, and it just overall felt short.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 02:25 PM

Really, easily?

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 04:03 PM

Beta Ray Bill and Thor are roughly equal to Superman in terms of physical capabilities(slightly stronger, slightly slower).

Superboy-Prime, especially at the point from which he was taken in this setup, is far more powerful than that, in terms of physical capabilities.


Beta Ray Bill is undoubtedly more skilled, and more experienced, but it's simply not enough to bridge the gap in capabilities.

Add to that, the fact that Superboy-Prime is not vulnerable to magic, so even on the off chance that the hammer would affect the regular Superman(I don't believe it would), Superboy-Prime can pretty much ignore it(as much as he can ignore any of Bill's physical attacks). And if Bill for some reason tries to use any of his non-physical attacks, they will simply be absorbed and make SBP more powerful.


Another thing in Superboy-Prime's advantage, is the fact that the fight takes place on Mars, which gets considerably more solar radiation than Earth(due to it's location closer to the sun, and the lack of atmosphere). Which in turn, means that SBP gets stronger, considerably faster than he would on Earth.


So yes, "easily."

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 04:32 PM

if Bill for some reason tries to use any of his non-physical attacks, they will simply be absorbed and make SBP more powerful.


Fair points, but when does Superboy Prime show the ability to absorb magical attacks?

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 04:48 PM

As far as I know, he has never shown the ability to absorb magic. He has simply proven that he's immune to it. I.e. that his invulnerability works against magic, just like it works against everything else.

But the majority of Bill's various non-physical attacks are not magical, so that's pretty much a moot point.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:32 PM

I see. Looks like the overpowered teen does it again.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:46 PM

Oh, and Rulk is a non-entity in this fight. Except, of course, if SBP uses him as a blunt force weapon to bludgeon Bill.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:28 PM

Heh. Poor Rulk.

God, i hate Prime.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:41 PM

Lol, why?

Aside from the fact that he is kinda(very) whiny, I like the idea of the character. And I like the twist on Superman's powers.

But then again, I also like the general idea of Red Hulk, except for his looks and name.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:56 PM

I like Superboy Prime's story arch in Infinite Crisis, he was an interesting and threatening villain in that, and i like who Rulk turned out to be, but they didn't do either idea justice at all.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:00 PM

I kinda liked Red Hulk's rampage.

From a character development point of view, it was kinda meh. But I loved the way it really showed the extent of what Rulk's powers are actually capable of. Kinda like Superman-Prime(one million) is for Superman.

In terms of character, I far prefer Rulk's later showings.

But for SBP, I completely agree that the Infinite Crisis arc was brilliant. Kinda on the heavy side with PIS(especially his fight against Monarch), but all in all, it showed his capabilities very nicely, as well as being good on the character side as well.

I'd love to see a story with SBP's future incarnation the Time Trapper though.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:07 PM

(due to it's location closer to the sun, and the lack of atmosphere).

Um... Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:16 PM

Um... Correct me if I'm wrong, but...


Yea, that one is my bad.

My only excuse is that I didn't get much sleep. :blush:

Edit: My point about the greater amount of solar radiation still stands though.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 07:47 PM

Meh on the setup and Prime wins easily of course. I loved Superboy-Prime and liked the fact when he came back in Teen Titans 99 and 100 he actually came with his own team which was smart. Prime who is always traveling between the Universes and Time formed a hell of a team to go against the Titans. Prime's arc in 52 was awesome though the Monarch part was stupid.

I hate Red Hulk as a character. Their is something about him I have never liked and I don't know what it is. If they wanted another Hulk I always felt they should have brought back Joe Fixit and just make him more powerful. World War Hulk was a perfect way to have Bruce's mind screwed up again and have Joe Fixit come back.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:35 AM

Sticking with the red hulk topic i truly enjoy the twist of his anger forcing him to get hotter instead of stronger but the problem i have is he looks just like the hulk i mean abomination was transformed due to gamma radiation but you didnt see him come out as blue hulk i thought that would have been a great moment for marvel to create an all new monster and not just copy the hulk.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

I kinda liked Red Hulk's rampage.

From a character development point of view, it was kinda meh. But I loved the way it really showed the extent of what Rulk's powers are actually capable of. Kinda like Superman-Prime(one million) is for Superman.

In terms of character, I far prefer Rulk's later showings.

But for SBP, I completely agree that the Infinite Crisis arc was brilliant. Kinda on the heavy side with PIS(especially his fight against Monarch), but all in all, it showed his capabilities very nicely, as well as being good on the character side as well.

I'd love to see a story with SBP's future incarnation the Time Trapper though.


I didn't read much Rulk-related stuff myself. I like Infinite Crisis, despite the PIS surrounding some of Superboy Prime's actions, he was meant to be this unstoppable force in the form of a bitchy teenager, and they pulled that off nicely.

What's the Time Trapper like, then?

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 04:39 PM

The set-up was really short, and could have used a lot of work. It wasn't really much of a story, it just told us what was happening. It could have been better described, and it just overall felt short.
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