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Match 12141 The Star Wars Fanatics vs. Trekkies


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#21 DamagingRob

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:46 PM

@Rob: Uh, okay? I've never heard of "Star Ocean", so would you mind telling me what it is and how it's relevant to this debate?

Final Fantasy, in a space setting. :D

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:47 PM

:o I want to play this game.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:48 PM

Heh.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:52 PM

Star Trek is harder than Star Wars (I mean, what isn't? You would have to go to something like Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy or Futurama to find something softer than SW.), but it's nowhere near "Pure, hard science fiction". Mass Effect is considerably harder than Star Trek, and it's a space opera. Then you have Jules Verne, Isaac Asimov, and Arthur Clarke, etc. who regularly write a lot harder than Star Trek.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

AVP pretty much summed it up, classic Star Trek and TNG > everything else. Great match, whoever gave you an 'F' with no explanation, is a troll and the reason why anonymity is a problem. Thanks for ruining it for everyone! It's people like you who get laws to police the internet enacted.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:34 PM

The idea of Star Trek being "hard sci-fi" or being harder sci-fi than Star Wars is amusing. I guess Star Trek is harder because it calls its space ghosts noncorporeal energy beings instead of ghosts?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:55 PM

I enjoyed the new Star Trek movie more than any other ST or SW movies; however, I enjoy the SW universe more.

My question is, who's more Iconic: Vader or Kirk?
And would you rather posseses the power of the force and a lightsaber or the USS Enterprise and the piloting capabilities of Captain Kirk?

Also, great set-up. Although I think the SW fanboys win; It's more popular.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

That's a pretty unevel question, because it's making you choose between a personal ability and the ability to see the galaxy. It'd be better if you asked "Would you rather want the Millenium Falcon or the Enterprise?" and "Would you rather want to be a Jedi or a Starfleet officer?"

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:15 PM

I tried to include the positives of both, but without the negatives.

For instance, if you're a Jedi, you're not allowed to have a wife.
At least, I think that's true, I made be wrong though.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:17 PM

:mellow: *Runs and burns everything of Star Wars he owns* :P

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:17 PM

I tried to include the positives of both, but without the negatives.

For instance, if you're a Jedi, you're not allowed to have a wife.
At least, I think that's true, I made be wrong though.

Really? So.. how did Darth pop out old Luke? I guess he is a bastard then eh?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:19 PM

Really? So.. how did Darth pop out old Luke? I guess he is a bastard then eh?


He wasn't exactly following the Jedi code..

But as I've said before, I could be wrong.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:19 PM

Really? So.. how did Darth pop out old Luke? I guess he is a bastard then eh?

I don't recall them marrying in the prequel trilogy.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:23 PM

The idea of Star Trek being "hard sci-fi" or being harder sci-fi than Star Wars is amusing. I guess Star Trek is harder because it calls its space ghosts noncorporeal energy beings instead of ghosts?

FTL travel is more theoretically possible, there is no Force- which is basically magic, there are no plasma swords that can somehow cut through anything, etc. I mean as a whole it might not be THAT much harder, but some individual episodes are definitely harder.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:51 PM

For instance, if you're a Jedi, you're not allowed to have a wife.


Jolee Bindo did. Revan did. Luke Skywalker did. Etc.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

Jolee Bindo did. Revan did. Luke Skywalker did. Etc.


Wasn't Revan evil?

And the order was different when Luke was alive.

I don't know about Jolee.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:58 PM

Not at the time he was married.

True.

Eh, Bindo did kind of bend the rules.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

Oh, weren't the rules different in Rvan's time also?

And I see.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:00 PM

Not that different.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:15 PM

FTL travel is more theoretically possible,


One is no more theoretically possible than the other.

there is no Force- which is basically magic,


The Q. Psionics, the Douwd, the wormhole aliens, Apollo, ghosts, (seriously, ghosts). And literal magic.

there are no plasma swords that can somehow cut through anything, etc


As opposed to the hand guns that make people disappear with no ill effects to the surrounding environment?

All Star Trek does is bullshit it's magic and ghosts by trying to give them science-y names.




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