I'm almost 98% certain you pulled this straight out of your ass. Enslaving Earth's heroes and shattering planets with his fists is Jesus-like how? He's about as interesting a character as Conan is, so I'll give you that.The tale of WWH is essentially a what if Jesus and Conan had been the same guy, with a few social and religious debates worked into the subtext. Hulk is treated with gravitas.
Match 12072 Lobo vs. World War Hulk
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:38 PM
He can regenerate completely from just a single drop of blood.
I think WWH regenerates faster, though, IIRC. Just not as completely.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:16 PM
Lobo can go toe to toe with Superman.
but didn't WWH defeat all the Avengers?
but didn't WWH defeat all the Avengers?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:29 AM
A lot of World War Hulk matches popping up lately...
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I'd have to go with WWH on this. From an overall perspective in terms of powers, WWH is pretty much the ultimate incarnation of the Hulk. His strength, his stamina, his durability & his healing factor all work at levels beyond that of any other personality/incarnation of the character thus far. He's taken on pretty much all the Avengers, all the X-Men, defeated Dr. Strange after Strange had been possessed by a near omnipotent demon/god, etc. As far as his fight with the Sentry goes, they were pretty evenly matched in terms of overall raw power. They both reverted to their alter egos, exhausted, with Banner having enough juice left in the tank to knock Reynolds out before morphing back into the Hulk a few minutes later seemingly none the worse for wear. This Hulk is also one that has a pretty good set of combat skills. He actually does use his mind in some of his fights and honed his skills to solid levels during the Planet Hulk storyline. During Hulk's battle against the X-Men, he and Wolverine eventually got into it and Hulk realized that just slugging it out with Wolverine as they always did wasn't going to get him anywhere because of Wolverine's adamantium skeleton and healing factor. Hulk was able to grab him and punch him repeatedly upside his head, causing his brain to bounce around inside of his skull. He wasn't damaging the bones, but the repeated impacts were turning his brain into pudding, taking him out of the fight for a while until the damage could be healed. I'm not completely sure about this, but I think WWH is basically a combination of the Banner & Hulk personalities. They've always been..well at odds with each other, for lack of a better word, but the two personalities decided to coexist with each other and the result was this new Hulk that was larger & more powerful than any other version before.
As far as Lobo goes, he's just someone that's been used so inconsistently over the course of his existence. His powers fluccuate so wildly and his personality at times is so cooky that I've always had trouble taking him seriously. Some writers will portray him as this near invincible badass while others turn him into a walking punchline. Some have him on a similar strength level as Superman while others seem to have him as being barely stronger than a normal human. To me, Lobo is little more than an extremely over the top parody and amalgam of Wolverine and The Punisher.
I see Lobo getting his shots in definitely and delivering some severe damage to WWH but I just think WWH's rage will enhance his powers to a level that Lobo just won't be able to withstand. It might be nearly impossible to kill Lobo, but WWH doesn't have to kill him. He just has to beat him so badly that he's simply no longer able to continue the fight, which is what I'd say would happen.
As far as Lobo goes, he's just someone that's been used so inconsistently over the course of his existence. His powers fluccuate so wildly and his personality at times is so cooky that I've always had trouble taking him seriously. Some writers will portray him as this near invincible badass while others turn him into a walking punchline. Some have him on a similar strength level as Superman while others seem to have him as being barely stronger than a normal human. To me, Lobo is little more than an extremely over the top parody and amalgam of Wolverine and The Punisher.
I see Lobo getting his shots in definitely and delivering some severe damage to WWH but I just think WWH's rage will enhance his powers to a level that Lobo just won't be able to withstand. It might be nearly impossible to kill Lobo, but WWH doesn't have to kill him. He just has to beat him so badly that he's simply no longer able to continue the fight, which is what I'd say would happen.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:10 PM
Um...no, WWH is not the strongest, most durable Hulk incarnation ever been presented, sorry.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:14 PM
WWH is not the strongest, most durable Hulk incarnation ever been presented, sorry.
What is, in-cannon? Is it the Worldbreaker Hulk seen at the end of the World War Hulk comic? That's the strongest i remember seeing him in cannon Marvel comics...
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:52 PM
Incorrect. I have the comic and sentry lost fair and square. the both used up all of their energy and reverted back to humans which Banner punched him and knocked him out. THEN turned right back into the Hulk with no bruises.I think Hulk was going all out and Sentry actually beat him.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:14 PM
True, but they did both revert back to human form. They were both severely weakened by that fight.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:35 PM
yes but as i stated and as what happened was he changed BACK into the Hulk and started back at 100 percent
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 04:06 AM
What is, in-cannon? Is it the Worldbreaker Hulk seen at the end of the World War Hulk comic? That's the strongest i remember seeing him in cannon Marvel comics...
That would be this guy.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 02:07 PM
Who the Hell is that gimp of a Hulk?
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:14 PM
I'm almost 98% certain you pulled this straight out of your ass.
Too true. Admittedly I was thinking of Planet Hulk. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Allow me to reanalyze...
For Lobo to defeat WWH (a comic, not necessarily Hulk) Lobo would have to match or top Hulk's invasion, and the main man just doesn't have enough power or resources to trump the Inhumans, the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, the U.S Army, a demon-possessed Dr. Strange, the Sentry, and an experimental weaponry cocktail. Do you really think Lobo could do what Hulk did?
Let's take it from beginning to end, and let's spot Lobo infinite lives.
Lobo lands on the Moon-
Medusa: You come to the land of the Inhumans, girded for war and in need of a shower.
Lobo: Hey sweetheart, why don't you ditch tuning-fork brow and hang with the Main Man!
Medusa: Insolent fool! My husbands master blow can shatter your bones and his merest whis...
Lobo: Yeah, yeah whatever. Once I'm done fragging chatterbox here, none of you freaks will ever forget that is was Lobo that slam dunked this rock into a dust pile!
Blackbolt: Lobo who?
Lobo -1 life
Lobo warp zones past the Moon and to Stark Tower...
Lobo: Yoo-hoo! Anybody home?
Lobo knocks Stark Tower down. Hulkbuster Ironman has entered the battle.
Ironman: Usually you need an appointment, but given the circumstances I'm sure I can pencil you in.
Lobo: Sure thing boss! Here's my card.
Lobo draws his blaster - the Ironman suit registers the attack and unleashes a salvo at the bounty hunter leaving Lobo holding a destroyed gun and looking like Daffy Duck without his beak.
Lobo: You'll pay for that Hot-Rod!
Lobo closes in for alien fisticuffs and wrestles Ironman in the skies over Manhattan. Tony injects Lobo with strength depleting nano bots in the scuffle and tosses him to the Avengers B-Team waiting in the streets below. After Ms. Marvel, Spiderwoman, She-Hulk, Ares, Luke Cage, Wonderman, and Spiderman are done webbing, axing, and cosmic blasting Lobo, Ironman, no worse for wear joins the fray, and Lobo holds up a little sign that says 'Help'. Without a pack of battle-hardened Warbound (as strong as the Hulk used to be) guarding his ass Lobo is quickly stuffed and mounted and becomes no more than another trophy to dust for Jarvis.
Lobo -1 life
Lobo warpzones away from the street and directly to the Baxter Building where...
Lobo: So where's this Reed Richards I keep hearing abo... oooohh...
Reed Richards (via voice controls of his trap): Lobo...
Lobo: Shiny ...
He reaches for the device errantly thinking someone has provided him with a golden space-harem.
ZAPPPP!
Lobo - 1 life.
-1 life
Back to the streets...
Ross: Those costumed clowns had their chance.
Lobo: Finally! Someone I can frag! Bring is on soldier boy I... huh?
Strange astral projects Lobo into his own headspace resembling the Mos Eisley cantina after the band just up and walked off stage.
Dr. Strange: There is no place for you here alien!
Lobo: Is that a man-dress? Outta my way Gandalfina!
Strange: YOU CANNOT HARM ME HERE, BUFFOON! I AM THE SORCEROR SUPREME. YOUR SNARKINESS MEANS NOTHING TO ME!
Lobo: Too chicken to fight me eh?
Strange: I don't have to fight you. I only need occupy your mind while the good general's men tear your body to shreds before napalming your remains. I'll wager right now you wished you had some experienced bodyguards to shield your body from the attack.
Lobo fires off a lexicon of alien curses that fade as he diminishes into nothing.
Lobo - 1 life
Warpzone MSG
Lobo has his bike thrown down in front of him.
Lobo: What!? Not you again!
Strange/Zom: KNEEL BEFORE ZOM!
THOOM!
Lobo: Is that all you... ugh.
Lobo -1 life
Still at MSG...
A wave of fire engulfs the Garden.
Lobo: Aww what now?
The freaking Sentry unleashes the power of a billion exploding suns into Lobo's crotch rendering the rest of Lobo's infinite lives not worth living.
As this happens Ironman requisitions a few war satellites and ices Lobo's extraterrestrial cake.
Excelsior and goodnight!
And if the above scenario doesn't seal Hulk's victory forget not Hulk's simple mantra. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets and the Hulk is the strongest there is.
How you like them ass-apples?
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Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:22 AM
Wisecracker, your material is great. But you're ignoring a bunch of stuff.
"Blackbolt: Lobo who?
Lobo -1 life"
There's nothing stopping Lobo from regenerating and sucker-punching BB. Like Hulk did.
"Tony injects Lobo with strength depleting nano bots in the scuffle"
Which are duds. Like with Hulk.
"After Ms. Marvel, Spiderwoman, She-Hulk, Ares, Luke Cage, Wonderman, and Spiderman are done webbing, axing, and cosmic blasting Lobo,"
Unless you give Lobo a team of sidekicks, this isn't a fair comparison, as Hulk never had to take on these guys at once.
"Strange: I don't have to fight you. I only need occupy your mind while the good general's men tear your body to shreds before napalming your remains. I'll wager right now you wished you had some experienced bodyguards to shield your body from the attack.
Lobo fires off a lexicon of alien curses that fade as he diminishes into nothing."
Again, not a fair comparison if Lobo doesn't have help. Although Strange would have a better shot here than he did against Hulk, since Lobo won't be able to sucker Strange in and crush his hands.
"Strange/Zom: KNEEL BEFORE ZOM!
THOOM!
Lobo: Is that all you... ugh."
Inconclusive; Strange had the upper hand until almost accidentally killing a bunch of civilians, which distracted and demoralized him for yet ANOTHER Hulk sucker-punch. If it were Lobo, it would have been much worse, since the civilians would actually be dead w/o Hulk to save them. God only knows what would've happened then, but if would've been awful for somebody.
"The freaking Sentry unleashes the power of a million exploding suns into Lobo's crotch rendering the rest of Lobo's infinite lives not worth living."
*sigh* His junk regenerates just as well as the rest of him does; I'm not bringing that up to be pedantic, you're just getting mean now.
"And if the above scenario doesn't seal Hulk's victory forget not Hulk's simple mantra. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets"
World War Hulk is just about Hulk's pinnacle of rage. In the WWH storyline, the only time you actually see him getting even angrier is when 1) one of his exilers/wifekillers drives him to the edge of unconsciousness and he dreams of her, 2) when a bitter old foe paralyzes and mocks him, questioning his right to ever be happy, or to live at all, and 3) when he finds out he's been duped all along. IOW, Hulk's not getting madder unless Lobo finds some way to get REALLY personal.
But anyway. Let it be known that I'm not saying Lobo necessarily wins. WWH is terrifying. I'm just saying that these arguments don't facilitate that conclusion.
"Blackbolt: Lobo who?
Lobo -1 life"
There's nothing stopping Lobo from regenerating and sucker-punching BB. Like Hulk did.
"Tony injects Lobo with strength depleting nano bots in the scuffle"
Which are duds. Like with Hulk.
"After Ms. Marvel, Spiderwoman, She-Hulk, Ares, Luke Cage, Wonderman, and Spiderman are done webbing, axing, and cosmic blasting Lobo,"
Unless you give Lobo a team of sidekicks, this isn't a fair comparison, as Hulk never had to take on these guys at once.
"Strange: I don't have to fight you. I only need occupy your mind while the good general's men tear your body to shreds before napalming your remains. I'll wager right now you wished you had some experienced bodyguards to shield your body from the attack.
Lobo fires off a lexicon of alien curses that fade as he diminishes into nothing."
Again, not a fair comparison if Lobo doesn't have help. Although Strange would have a better shot here than he did against Hulk, since Lobo won't be able to sucker Strange in and crush his hands.
"Strange/Zom: KNEEL BEFORE ZOM!
THOOM!
Lobo: Is that all you... ugh."
Inconclusive; Strange had the upper hand until almost accidentally killing a bunch of civilians, which distracted and demoralized him for yet ANOTHER Hulk sucker-punch. If it were Lobo, it would have been much worse, since the civilians would actually be dead w/o Hulk to save them. God only knows what would've happened then, but if would've been awful for somebody.
"The freaking Sentry unleashes the power of a million exploding suns into Lobo's crotch rendering the rest of Lobo's infinite lives not worth living."
*sigh* His junk regenerates just as well as the rest of him does; I'm not bringing that up to be pedantic, you're just getting mean now.
"And if the above scenario doesn't seal Hulk's victory forget not Hulk's simple mantra. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets"
World War Hulk is just about Hulk's pinnacle of rage. In the WWH storyline, the only time you actually see him getting even angrier is when 1) one of his exilers/wifekillers drives him to the edge of unconsciousness and he dreams of her, 2) when a bitter old foe paralyzes and mocks him, questioning his right to ever be happy, or to live at all, and 3) when he finds out he's been duped all along. IOW, Hulk's not getting madder unless Lobo finds some way to get REALLY personal.
But anyway. Let it be known that I'm not saying Lobo necessarily wins. WWH is terrifying. I'm just saying that these arguments don't facilitate that conclusion.
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Lobo: 12
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FPA: 0.5
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Lobo: 12
World War Hulk: 38
FPA: 0.5
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