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#41 I_KNOW_ALL

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:33 PM

Okay, I wasn't nearly done posting Dragonball feats, I've just been jammed at work all week. However, let me clarify a few points that I seen.

Jackie Chan vs. Bruce Lee fought so fast (IN REAL LIFE NOT THE MOVIE!!!) that their moves couldn't be captured on tape, however in the Jackie Chun vs Krillin fight, they moved full movements and had a full fight in an instant, no one seen them move, it wasn't just blurry, they simply did NOT SEE AT ALL! They also stopped and played Rock paper scissors during that time which means they came to a dead stop but it lasted such a short amount of time it wasn't noticeable.

Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee pulled an amazing feat, but they neither replicated or came anywhere close to the feat that was shown.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:20 PM

To be fair, it's really unclear in the Manga whether that exchange actually took place or whether it was a bit of puffery by Kamesenin and his pupil.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:52 PM

The one thing I noticed in fights like Goku vs Superman, some people who think Goku isn't capable of light speed gives him an automatic loss. Even if he can't move that fast, I don't think that should give him a loss. Karate Kid used his martial arts to throw Superman around, and Superman is leagues above him physically. While Goku isn't as good of a martial artist(still really good) as Karate Kid, he is a lot closer physically. So people are saying Karate Kid can counter Superman's physical prowess with his martial arts, but Goku can't?

Goku was able to dodge lightning as a kid with a power level of 300(give or take). Speed of light travels 3,000 times faster than the speed of lightning. So, Goku would have to increase his power by 3,000. (In DBZ when you increase your power, you increase strength, speed, durability etc.) Which case by the time he is a super saiyan, his last official power levels was 150,000,000. So, personally I think by that time, he is capable of light speed.

That is supported by the fact that King Kai was capable of tracking Goku's ship moving at light speed, but could not follow Frieza and Goku's movements.

All in all I'd say the upper tier characters can move and react at the speed of light. Their travel speed isn't that fast because it wastes too much ki.

Maybe all this is pointless because pymp always argues for DBZ #DBZfanProblems

I already pointed out how comparing power levels and speed gradients is pointless. You don't mathematically know how ki increases translate to increases in physical capability, so any attempt to do so is pointless.

Tracking a pod travelling in space is not the same as tracking movement speed. We can visually track the movement of galaxies, which are moving away from eachother at speeds above light speed. We can't visually track a hummingbird's wings however.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:17 PM

Like Thor having "1000's" of years of experience and yet he loses to people with far less years of experience.


Why would his years of experience matter?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:30 PM

It wouldn't matte is what I am saying, people say Thor has 1000's of years experience therefore he is a better fighter is what I think is not accurate. My point is that natural ability and determination beats experience a lot of times, unless they are fairly evenly matched.

The number of years doesn't matter as to why Mexico beat Spain in war and USA beat UK in war even though both were "less" experienced and less armed.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:21 PM

Alright. I'm of the same opinion actually, people seem to think that experience is some linear progression with no cap, rather than something with diminishing returns.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 11:38 AM

True and true

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:13 AM

Here's a good one.


General Tao kills General Blue in one strike... using his tongue
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:34 AM

General Tao kills General Blue in one strike... using his tongue
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Is that from sheer power, or hitting a pressure point?

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:10 AM


Goku trains 100 times gravity PRE-NAMEK!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:12 AM

Is that from sheer power, or hitting a pressure point?


Mixture of both, he hit him in the temple a very dangerous point when hit correctly, but you'd need a lot of power behind a tongue to have any effect.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:13 AM

Mixture of both, he hit him in the temple a very dangerous point when hit correctly, but you'd need a lot of power behind a tongue to have any effect.

I figured, but I don't think you need a lot of power to do that. With a mere poke to the fore head, Batman can kill someone.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:19 AM


Vegeta trains under 450 times gravity pre Cell Saga.

Notice feat was pulled off without the use of super saiyan technique which increases power X 50.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:20 AM

I figured, but I don't think you need a lot of power to do that. With a mere poke to the fore head, Batman can kill someone.


That's impossible...

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:33 AM

Okay Let's do a little math for feat.

The DBZ Wiki says Vegeta is 123lbs. 123 x 450 = 55350. Vegeta was 55,350lbs when he was training under that weight.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:40 AM

Also, as stated by Vegeta, near death experiences make saiyans stronger.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

@ Force Echo

Nothing moves faste than light in the real universe. Galaxies are moving farther away from each other but not at that speed..

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:29 PM

Actually, they are. The galaxies themselves are not moving faster than light, but the space between two galaxies is expanding from us at a rate faster than light speed, thereby, the galaxies are moving away from us faster than the speed of light.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

@ Force Echo

Nothing moves faste than light in the real universe. Galaxies are moving farther away from each other but not at that speed..


Our knowledge of the universe is far too limited to categorically say that nothing moves faster than light.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:58 PM

Well so far everything still falls under Einstein's rule or law of relatively. That the cosmic speed limit is up to light speed. Everything else is theoretical and just theories

Only worm holes allow faster than light and so far we cannot prove it





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