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[silversurfer092]

No one is stronger than the Hulk.


Also, she's a character based on an author's bondage fetish and she loses her powers when she gets her hands tied behind her back. Take that as you will.

[sirmethos]

"Could Wonder Woman survive the Super Nova Flame of the Human Torch?"

Yes.

"Would somebody like Iceman (X men) be able to freeze her to the point of rendering her immobile?"

Probably, yes. Though it would be considerably harder than with a normal human, since Wonder Woman is extremely resistant to heat and cold. Iceman, to use your own example, is probably the most powerful cryokinetic, hence he would probably be able to do it. But someone like Sub-Zero for example, probably wouldn't be able to do it.

"Could Wonder Woman survive the heat of the sun if she collided with it?"

I would say no.

"As far as how strong she is, is she seen as way beyond the Hulk in strength?"

As a base-level, she is far stronger than Hulk. She is only marginally weaker than Superman. But Hulk would eventually surpass her, and get stronger than she could ever hope to be.

"Does Wonder woman need to actually eat?"

Yes and no. Technically, she does have to eat, but she can merge with the earth, and once she regains her own human shape, any and all injuries are gone. That would include any injuries coming from the deprivation of food(though she likely wouldn't enjoy it).

"Is she the only person or amazon from her realm that has her powers?"

No.

"When they say she can go blow for blow with Superman does that mean she's as fast as he is too?"

Yes and no. In terms of movement speed(moving from point A to point B ), Superman is considerably faster than her(her top movement speed is just around the speed of light). In terms of combat speed though(the speed of a punch, block, kick, small dodge, etc.), she is just as fast as Superman(if not faster), and her reflexes/reaction speed is faster than Superman's.

[Pseudonym]

Depends on the writer. There is no answer to this question. It depends on the writer.

[force_echo]

I like how the topic is about Wonder Woman's durability and then anu goes on to ask about her speed.

[MarvelFan15]

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[Pseudonym]

Oh, this is an anu thread?

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[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Her durability is not very good. Sure she can take a Punch, but would die if a bullet hits her.
He has to block bullets remember that, also she is fast enough to block bullets, but is not light speed, if she was light speed then she would never get clocked by lesser folk

She chooses to eat, she is no nearly as strong as Hulk, and the sun would kill her as she is nothing more than clay that has been magically manipulated.

All in all she is a mid tier person that gets pushed to higher levels because DC is more cartoony than comic related. I mean to say that if they make Superman faster she will be too, just like Goku and Vegeta are even-though it shouldn't be

[Hayesmeister5651]

Uhh she takes punches that can shatter mountains(even stronger ones too), but I suppose in your logic bullets can shatter mountains?

[sirmethos]

"Her durability is not very good. Sure she can take a Punch, but would die if a bullet hits her."

Her durability to Blunt force trauma, Energy and Temperatures is very good. Her 'weakness' so to speak, is piercing weapons, which her durability is considerably lower against. And no, bullets can't kill her, though they can cause "minor to moderate injuries".

"She has to block bullets remember that, also she is fast enough to block bullets, but is not light speed, if she was light speed then she would never get clocked by lesser folk"

Yes her combat speed and reaction speed is faster than light. That's why she can block/deflect lasers just as easily as she blocks bullets.

"she is no nearly as strong as Hulk, and the sun would kill her as she is nothing more than clay that has been magically manipulated."

She is considerably stronger than Hulk on a base-level, yes. And what does being magically manipulated clay, have to do with her chances of surviving an impact with the sun? Mjolnir is just wood and metal that has been magically manipulated, and that has gone through worse things than a sun, without a scratch.

"All in all she is a mid tier person that gets pushed to higher levels because DC is more cartoony than comic related."

She is a low-end Superman-level character, and pretty much always has been.

"just like Goku and Vegeta are even-though it shouldn't be"

Goku and Vegeta are upper mid-tier. They have some high-level abilities(raw destructive power and strength), but also some low-end mid-tier abilities[durability, speed].

To give a comparison Wonder Woman has higher durability against Blunt Force, Magic and Temperatures than they do, while their durability towards Piercing weapons is obviously better. She is faster, they are(at the high ends, i.e. SS4, possibly SS3) stronger.

They have more raw destructive power. On the other hand, Wonder Woman is immortal, has unlimited stamina, is an empath, has enhanced senses, can communicate with animals, can astrally project herself into other realms, and learns things faster than humans(primarily languages).

[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

So she can take mountain shattering hits with no problem but has to block bullets and laser that are far less destructive?? Yeah that makes sense

And she has UNLIMITED stamina, but has been rendered tired from fighting also makes a lot of sense.
So Sirmethos if by what you say is correct how is the sun, that is much hotter than a laser not going to kill her? Se has to block lasers but not the sun?

If she is light speed why doesn't she just evade lasers or bullets? Oh and one last thing

You said Wonder Woman is slower than Superman yet the same speed when fighting. That's not making sense. If you mean she can punch as fast as Superman, that doesn't make her faster or close to, plus the only reason she can is because it's a comic book, plus the point I had about her being clay is that she is def not able to take a sun dip as she is just clay that has been animated magically. While Thors hammer is magically imbued with power. She has no such capabilities

[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Uhh she takes punches that can shatter mountains(even stronger ones too), but I suppose in your logic bullets can shatter mountains?

Yeah that's it Hayes lol

[Hayesmeister5651]

She blocks bullets with her wrists because it looks cool. It is as simple as that. A lot of things that are done are for the sake of the plot. Something you are not getting.

EDIT: By the way it is a comic, it doesn't have to make sense.

[sirmethos]

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"So she can take mountain shattering hits with no problem but has to block bullets and laser that are far less destructive?? Yeah that makes sense"

Yes, it does. Different kinds of damage. Her resistance to some kinds of damage is higher than others.

Human Torch is immune to Fire/Heat. By your logic that should make him immune to any temperature based attacks(he isn't, in case you were wondering).

"And she has UNLIMITED stamina, but has been rendered tired from fighting also makes a lot of sense."

As you pointed out yourself, she is essentially made of clay. Her muscles don't produce lactic acids, so yes, she essentially has unlimited stamina.

Wolverine has unlimited stamina as well, but he has been shown to get tired as well. That's because getting tired is not just a physical thing.

"So Sirmethos if by what you say is correct how is the sun, that is much hotter than a laser not going to kill her? Se has to block lasers but not the sun?"

Wait, what?

At no point have I said that the sun wouldn't kill her. In fact, I've said that it most likely would.

"If she is light speed why doesn't she just evade lasers or bullets?"

1. She is usually busy fighting, when bullets or lasers are fired at her, which means that she doesn't have the freedom of movement to dodge, while it only takes a minimum of movement(her hands) to block them. and 2. Because it's comics primarily written for teens, and it looks cooler to block them than to dodge them. I.e. Comics Mechanics.


"You said Wonder Woman is slower than Superman yet the same speed when fighting. That's not making sense."

Actually, it makes plenty of sense. Movement speed, i.e. moving from point A to point B, she is a lot slower than Superman. If you put the two in a race, then Superman would win by a large margin.

While Combat speed and Reaction speed, she is faster than Superman. I.e. if they both stand ready, and when a gun is fired, they both jump. When the gun is fired, Wonder Woman's jump will start before Superman's(reaction speed). If they both stand ready, and at the same time, they throw a punch at a target. Wonder Woman's punch will hit the target before Superman's punch hits his target(combat speed). It's not really that difficult to understand.

" If you mean she can punch as fast as Superman, that doesn't make her faster or close to"

Yes, it makes her combat speed faster than him, as I already pointed out(three times now).

"plus the only reason she can is because it's a comic book,"

And your point is...?

The only reason that any of them have any powers is because it's comic books. The only reason that Goku can fly is because it's a manga.

It's part of her powers, nothing more, nothing less.

"plus the point I had about her being clay is that she is def not able to take a sun dip as she is just clay that has been animated magically."

Her being made of clay has nothing to do with anything. Clay gets smashed if hit by a bullet, yet Wonder Woman would only receive minor injuries. Clay can't take a several million tons punch, but Wonder Woman can. Her being made of clay is not important in terms of her durability.

"While Thors hammer is magically imbued with power. She has no such capabilities"

Not true, she has been magically imbued with power, just like Mjolnir has. That's how she has all of her powers in the first place(her flight and speed was given to her by Hermes, just to give an example).

[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

So it's Comic mechanics eh? Then this whole time people swear to it in this site when certain people are placed vs her has been false.

"it looks cool" is no different than when I say Goku is as powerful as Superman?
It's just a comic I know which is why I don't get how people get mad at me, but at least I know you know what I mean by it not making sense.

[sirmethos]

So it's Comic mechanics eh? Then this whole time people swear to it in this site when certain people are placed vs her has been false.

"it looks cool" is no different than when I say Goku is as powerful as Superman?
It's just a comic I know which is why I don't get how people get mad at me, but at least I know you know what I mean by it not making sense.

What, exactly, is it that you're thinking is Comics Mechanics here?

The reason for why she blocks instead of dodging?

It's one possible reason for it. Personally I tend to block hits(or deflect them), rather than dodging, simply because it takes less effort. I only have to move my arm(s), rather than my entire body. That could be the reason she does it as well. I can think of several reasons for block/deflect > dodging. If she dodged all attacks for example, she wouldn't be able to send peoples own attacks back at them.

[Hayesmeister5651]

"it looks cool" is no different than when I say Goku is as powerful as Superman?

lolwut? Yes there is a difference. So with that logic Beak can beat Darkseid 'cause I said so.

[sirmethos]

Oh and, no, it's not the same as when you say that Goku is as powerful as Superman.

Goku's power compared to Superman's can actually be proven(or refuted). That blocking/deflecting bullets and lasers, looks cooler than dodging them, is just a fact.

[Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Las I checked Wonder Woman was not as durable as Thors Hammer.
Oh and Logan does not have unlimited Stamina where are you getting this? He has no more stamina than Cap A. Oh and "it looks cooler" is not a fact it's an opinion. I personally think it looks cooler when they dodge attacks
Like when Goku uses his after image is much cooler than WW blocking bullets that for some reason only are aimed at her torso.
I guess "cool" is different in our eyes

Plus the same can be said about everything right? Like it's cooler to do X than doing Y

To hayes, not quite, it's not as black and white as that, simply saying that going by "it's cooler" is not valid, nor did any writer/penciler or etc ever say we have her block things that WW can not be harmed by it because it looks cool!