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[Confession FPT]

The CBUB database has A LOT of useless characters in it. Some more useless than the other. I have commited the act of submitting characters that no one will ever want to use. I have added a few different single Pokemon to the database that I semi-regret. I'm that guy responsible for Machamp, Primeape, Butterfee, and Voltorb to our database. Mew, Mewtwo, and Scyther are among others who have been verified.

So my question is this: Do we need all the Pokemon who have ever existed in the database? And if we do, how close are we to having all six hundred twenty something pokemon? What be your thoughts?

[Peypeypeypey]

Yes

[Ruinus]

No, we do not. I'm of the opinion that we don't even need the alternate versions of characters or even sub-classes of characters (for example, we don't need all the different named Predators from the Predator franchise). If someone knows enough about Pokemon to make a set up between... I dunno, Mewtwo and Articuno, then they can just link to Mewtwo and Articuno on the Poke-wiki themselves.

Sooner or later we are going to end up with odd entries like "Superman with the Power Cosmic" or "Superman with a Green Lantern's Ring" as actual entries in the database.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

The legendarys, yeah, and those that have had movies in which they feature prominently.

And seriously, adding lots of characters doesn't detract from the site's quality. So what if no one ever uses them? At least the option's there.

[Confession FPT]

And seriously, adding lots of characters doesn't detract from the site's quality. So what if no one ever uses them? At least the option's there.

I'm all for variety in the database. But I think Ruinus has a point too. We're already flooded with very obscure characters that just clutter the database. I think having so many people character to rummage through is a bit of a turn off and it is a bit harder to think of matches if you have to look through 20 different Batmen to find a different character.

I think Pokemon is a special case though. Each Pokemon is his own entity, for sure, but are there just too many of them? Should we have every single form of every single evolution? How do we regulate it, if at all?

[corvette1710]

The actual number of Pokemon in the National Dex is 649, not 620-629.

[Ruinus]

In the case of Pokemon, I think it should be like this. There is a single entry labeled "Pokemon". In the set up it should be clear which pokemon is invovled in the fight, and then the person who is writing the set up does their own work and provides a link to the specific pokemon.

For example, if I wanted to have a fight between an AT-AT from Star Wars fighting, I dunno, the Mega Zord from Power Rangers the set up would just be "Galactic Empire vs Power Rangers". The set up would be clear as to who is fighting, and at the end I'd drop a link to the AT-AT and one to the Mega Zord.

[Square Pickle]

We dont need ALL of them, but I would be cool with alot of them (no new ones please). Guys like Magikarp, Jynx, Slopoke, Weedle, and Shelder will NEVER be used, and if they are they will NEVER be used in a good match. However guys like Garadose, Charzard, Beedirll, Electebuzz, Mew, and Snorlax could make very good matches. You just have to ask yourself, "Would this guy ever be able to make an interesting match?" and "Will anyone ever want to use this guy?".

Note: Not all evolutionary Pokemon are as good as their evolved forms. For example "Furrow = Good" and "Spearow = Crap". Im a big fan of Squirtle and Blastois, but who will ever use Wartortle? No one... Im a big fan of Charmillion, and he is very unique looking, but who will ever use him (I would!) when Charzard and Charmander are far more popular? Things like that are what you have to ask yourself. Ill tell you right now, adding Goldeen is a waist of time. Add the legendary birds!

[corvette1710]

I might just use all of those Pokemon mentioned simply to spite you.

:|

[Z451]

We dont need ALL of them, but I would be cool with alot of them (no new ones please). Guys like Magikarp, Jynx, Slopoke, Weedle, and Shelder will NEVER be used, and if they are they will NEVER be used in a good match. However guys like Garadose, Charzard, Beedirll, Electebuzz, Mew, and Snorlax could make very good matches. You just have to ask yourself, "Would this guy ever be able to make an interesting match?" and "Will anyone ever want to use this guy?".

Note: Not all evolutionary Pokemon are as good as their evolved forms. For example "Furrow = Good" and "Spearow = Crap". Im a big fan of Squirtle and Blastois, but who will ever use Wartortle? No one... Im a big fan of Charmillion, and he is very unique looking, but who will ever use him (I would!) when Charzard and Charmander are far more popular? Things like that are what you have to ask yourself. Ill tell you right now, adding Goldeen is a waist of time. Add the legendary birds!

Already done. Moltres, Articuno, and Zapdos are all in, along with Lugia and Ho-Oh if you count them too.

[Square Pickle]

I might just use all of those Pokemon mentioned simply to spite you. :|

Lol. Make an interesting match with Magikarp. All he can really do is swim, and he's pretty slow and clumsy at that. He can learn tackle, but even then it hardly does anything. Magikarp is one of the most useless Pokemone there is.

-Still, just to spite my friends in 2001, I raised a Magikarp to level 100. Sadly he still sucked. I figured it would be funny to have a Magikarp taking down Lv. 60 Garadose with "tackle", but he was almost as useless at 100 as he was at 5. Even a Lv. 27 Seel will hand him his ass. -.-

[Landon]

Psyduck

Jigglypuff

Delete all others.

[FoxFingers]

Hey after you are done spamming the CBUB DB with Pokemon, please make sure to insert every single one of the Green lantern Corps. from every planet. And be sure to Include all their alternate universe versions.

Every. Single. Green Lantern.

And then... wrestlers! Yeah! All the wrestlers!

[Z451]

Hey after you are done spamming the CBUB DB with Pokemon, please make sure to insert every single one of the Green lantern Corps. from every planet. And be sure to Include all their alternate universe versions.

Every. Single. Green Lantern.

And then... wrestlers! Yeah! All the wrestlers!

[Ruinus]

I could start adding each individual B1 Battle Droid. All quintillion of them.

[Confession FPT]

Psyduck

Jigglypuff

Delete all others.

I cannot argue with this logic.

[Square Pickle]

Hey after you are done spamming the CBUB DB with Pokemon, please make sure to insert every single one of the Green lantern Corps. from every planet. And be sure to Include all their alternate universe versions. Every. Single. Green Lantern. And then... wrestlers! Yeah! All the wrestlers!

I tried adding Brock Lesnar as a UFC fighter (before he cameback to WWE), but they said he was considered a wrestler.

Andre the Giant should be allowed though. He is huge in pop-culture. He did 19 years ago and still has T-shirts with his face on them! Lol. Andre has a Posse!

[The Seeker of Stuff]

No real people, unless they have pop culture significance.

[Square Pickle]

We have 2 identicle Attila the Huns, but no Andre? .....Or his posse.

[Culwych1]

We have 2 identicle Attila the Huns, but no Andre? .....Or his posse.

Why not add Fezzik from Princess Bride? Can't see why that wouldn't be allowed as we have Inigo and Roberts



And agreed, we are starting to see too many variations of the same character - in particular Predators of which we have over 20!


Predator
Predator (Hish)
Falconer Predator
Tracker Predator
Chopper Predator
Prince Predator
Smiley Predator
Spartan Predator
Dark Predator
Ghost Predator
Berserker Predator
Scarface Predator
Elder Predator
Celtic Predator
Predator Herd
Scar Predator
Wolf Predator
Broken Tusk Predator
Killer Predator Clan
Light-Stepper Predator
MetaPredators

Can that really be justified?? I'm all for some of the obscure characters for the fans, but not when there is a character that can be used as a good replacement (i.e. "Predator" and then put in setup which one it is). Half the time it doesn't make a difference because the writer has to specify what age the Predator is anyway (or uses their own variation or personal Pred).