Hey, how about you give a detailed, step by step account of how Darkseid "beat" (as you claim) The Source, or how Thanos defeated any more powerful character?
Bro, a question as a response? OK. No prob. I never said Seid 'beat' the Source. I only said he faced him off, was the only New God standing alone to face him, and did so with brains, and his own credo. The Source was not depowered, or beat down when Seid faced him, raher the Source was at the height of his power.
Stats comparison will be funny when it comes to an opponent like the Source with that of Malebolgia. Given, 'Bolgia is powerful, but the Source is Absolute. 'Bolgia is given a domain, and is a subject among many. Image has stated this here and there. The Source is owner, fashioner, 'empowerer', and destroyer of his dominion, that of the New Gods' universe. The Source also 'source's' the 'Source Wall' (So many 'sources right there eh?), an object that emcompasses the powers and might of the Demi-Gods passed on and collected into it. Even a group of New Gods (Demi-Urge, Seid, Orion, High Father etc.) is not just a notch, but way above the known 'army' Malbolgia created. The Source 'sourced' whole worlds, and maintained them. Seid not only blindsided him, but faced him off. He didn't beat him (He logically just can't, which is why i am calling out the PIS factor)but fought him face to face, and that given period of time he survived or stood mano-a-mano proved that Seid is capable of things 'beyond' what we had been seeing in his underwritten tales. In a capsule, Seid faced off a much more complete, and powerful opponent, a feat that none of the Source's creation accomplished. To me, that singular feat is way more than any 'extra-endowed' hero can muster up.
Now, the following accrue directly in this fight:
1) Here, in this match, he is coupled with Thanos, a creature I consider less than Seid, but many consider more. I am not saying i am going with one opinion or another at this point: I am saying he is coupled with a titan who gave the entire Marvel U fits. If that tag team is not overwheling, I don't know which is.
2) I also argued that it is 'possible' that Seid and Thanos will be left alone by Rider, as they are very possibly, devoid of 'demonic or human soul attributes' and more like forces of nature on a certain collision course.
3) I also said, that if Seid and Thanos are comprising a human or demonic factor in terms of a soul, then they lose almost instantly.
However, I just don't see either Seid or Thanos subject to these laws on which the hell fire operates. Still, I left both posisbilities open, in the lement of fairness.
Now, since you didnot address the question: Spawn did not face Malebolgia (An opponent to me, much much lesser than the Source) till he was weakened. He also had aid, courtesy Angela, who struck one of the blows further weakening the demon. To me, that is not mano-a-mano. that is not one on one. That is 'extras'. Whether it be a concoction brewed by Spawn himself, or made on his advice, a power-up he devised and bolstered his abilities with, it was not Spawn's doing. These were extraneous factors that helped Spawn cross that PIS line and beat a creature that basically 'powered' him. Imagine, if Seid would have actually beat the Source, i would have called it major PIS of all time. The thing that 'spawned' you, powered you, killed by you, especially when it can take the powers instantly away from you? Think about it. I don't think even comics hit that rock bottom venue where they draw PIS within PIS. Simple reality is: Spawn had help, and the factor that Malebolgia was just not upto his good ol; self following a ravaging battle prior to Spawn an' Angie hitting him. These factors worked against him, and I fully accept them. I also call the feat still impressive, just not Seid impressive. As for any of the other powers you mention: alter reality, manipulate matter, traverse time, space continnum, traverse realms, create semi-realms, break others, some of these the two share. I would just give it to the much more experienced and less fallible and smarter one. That's all. Cheers.