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Match 11043 Darkseid vs. Super Buu


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#1 megarock58

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:56 AM

Doomsday pounds on Android 16 hard.
he begins to rip his arms off.
then,
Buu comes in to avenge his ally.
he turns Doomsday into chocolate.
then he eats him.
Lex' Lord Darkseid.
Doomsday is dead.
Darkseid' what?!
Lex' Majin Buu killed him
Darksied'
Buu must die!
Darksied then searches for his adversary.

later.
Buu' Darksied, we meet at last.
Darkseid' you will pay for killing Doomsday.
Buu' not if i kill you first.

Note'
this is a sequel to my match up between Android 16 and Doomsday.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:56 AM

Learn More About
Darkseid
Read more about Darkseid at Wikipedia
Official Site: DC Comics Links: Wikipedia: Darkseid DC Database: Darkseid JLA Watchtower: Darkseid

Super Buu
Read more about Super Buu at Wikipedia
Official Site: Toei Animation Links: Wikipedia Absolute Anime DBZGTLegacy



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Posted 18 March 2012 - 05:50 PM

I dont now, nor have I ever gotten into DBZ. I wont vote on this fight, but I hope Darksied kicks his ass!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:30 AM

I don't know, nor have I ever gotten into Superman. I won't vote on this fight, but I hope Buu kicks his ass!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:42 AM

The hell?

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:33 AM

Darkseid will conveniently take this; more due to his varied powerset, and partly due to Buu's bravado and over confidence.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:10 AM

No not really, to say that DS is immune to anything SBuu can do is wrong. Then again there is a strong bias against DBZ characters on this forum. I don't mean that in the wrong way it's just nobody thinks their power is on the level with guys like Superman and guys he has fought which I still say is wrong. DS from what I understand is on Superman's level with strength and speed and all of that, yet I have yet to see him do any of it. Not even in the animated features has he shown he can do half of what people say. Super Buu can rip open dimensions yet of course...he's a DBZ character so no way he can beat anybody in DC right. Overall...would DS see the beam that allows him to get turned into Chocolate or would it even hit him? Case in point DS is arrogant too. As sick as it sounds I believe SBuu would beat him because not only can he change him into chocolate if he wants he can also absorb him.

So let's not say that's impossible because it's DS...yet of course with the DC bias people will disagree. SBuu wins.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:49 AM

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"to say that DS is immune to anything SBuu can do is wrong."

And no one has actually said that.


"Then again there is a strong bias against DBZ characters on this forum."

No, there really isn't.

Put the DBZ characters up against characters that they actually have the capabilities to beat, and you will see the majority of the forum voting for them(with the exception of a few raging fanboys).


"I don't mean that in the wrong way it's just nobody thinks their power is on the level with guys like Superman and guys he has fought"

Well, that's both true and not true. In terms of raw destructive power, pretty much everyone agrees that the high-end DBZ characters are more capable than Superman, but raw destructive power alone, does not win a fight. To use that particular example, the reason that the DBZ characters lose, is inferior speed and durability. (almost)everyone agrees that the DBZ characters are capable of more raw destruction, and that their combat skills are considerably better. But that doesn't really matter, when they can't hit their opponent, and they can't take the damage he dishes out.

Put up a match, DBZ character vs. Superman(or someone like him) in a contest on who can destroy the most within a certain time frame, and most people would vote for the DBZ'ers.


"DS from what I understand is on Superman's level with strength and speed and all of that, yet I have yet to see him do any of it. Not even in the animated features has he shown he can do half of what people say."

And you seem to be understanding wrong.

Darkseid is physically stronger and more durable than Superman(base level), and his speed is far below that of Superman.

He has a wide variety of other powers though, that makes him considerably more powerful, all of which he has demonstrated in the comics. The animated versions of the characters(which are in an alternate reality), are generally a lot weaker than their comics counterparts.

Darkseid's wide variety of powers, along with his intellect, skill and experience, is what would give him the win in this case. Not his physical capabilities(in a raw physical combat, he would lose to Buu, for the same reason as most DBZ'ers lose to Superman, far inferior speed).


"Super Buu can rip open dimensions"

So can Darkseid, in more than one way.


"yet of course...he's a DBZ character so no way he can beat anybody in DC right."

Not true. Buu could most likely beat most mid-tier DC characters, he starts running into trouble once he hits the high-tier characters though, since most of those are capable of matter manipulation, reality warping, high end telepathy, cosmic level magic, etc. etc. all of which are things that could take Buu down, not to mention the raw power most high-tier characters have available to them.


"Overall...would DS see the beam that allows him to get turned into Chocolate or would it even hit him?"

Would Darkseid see it? Probably, yes. Would it hit him? Possibly, yes.


"Case in point DS is arrogant too."

Not true. Darkseid is confident, and with good reason.


"As sick as it sounds I believe SBuu would beat him because not only can he change him into chocolate if he wants he can also absorb him."

Turn him into chocolate, no, he couldn't do that. Why? One word: Motherbox. It protects its wearer from direct manipulation like that.

Absorb him, there's a chance he could do that, yes. A fairly good chance even, since Buu's speed is far superior to Darkseid's. Would it make any difference? Not really, no. It would just mean that Buu gets disintegrated from the inside, instead of the outside. Darkseid would actually have a better chance of winning if he gets absorbed, since as long as he is Outside of Buu, Buu's speed makes it difficult for Darkseid to hit him(if Buu actually uses his speed). While once he gets absorbed, Buu is all around him, with no way to avoid getting hit by Darkseid's full power.


"So let's not say that's impossible because it's DS..."

Actually, lets. Darkseid is far superior to Buu, in every single aspect, except speed. And Buu's favored method of dealing with a powerful enemy(absorbing them), nullifies the speed advantage.

Matter Manipulation, Molecular Disintegration, Psionic Possession, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Omega Blasts. Just a few of the ways that Darkseid could win, with relative ease.


"yet of course with the DC bias people will disagree."

There isn't really any "DC bias"(aside from a few fanboys, though there's been surprisingly few DC fanboys lately).

DC just has a tendency to create characters that are ridiculously(obscenely) powerful. A tendency that gave me an antipathy against DC for a long time, 'till I stopped caring so much about the powers of the characters, and started being more interested in other, more important things, like characterization, story, etc.


"SBuu wins."

No, he really doesn't. For reasons I've already explained.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:22 AM

Oh look a nice refreshing match that has never been done with a awesome setup..............

Darkseid stomps. ^_^

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:39 AM

No not really, to say that DS is immune to anything SBuu can do is wrong. Then again there is a strong bias against DBZ characters on this forum. I don't mean that in the wrong way it's just nobody thinks their power is on the level with guys like Superman and guys he has fought which I still say is wrong. DS from what I understand is on Superman's level with strength and speed and all of that, yet I have yet to see him do any of it. Not even in the animated features has he shown he can do half of what people say. Super Buu can rip open dimensions yet of course...he's a DBZ character so no way he can beat anybody in DC right. Overall...would DS see the beam that allows him to get turned into Chocolate or would it even hit him? Case in point DS is arrogant too. As sick as it sounds I believe SBuu would beat him because not only can he change him into chocolate if he wants he can also absorb him.

So let's not say that's impossible because it's DS...yet of course with the DC bias people will disagree. SBuu wins.

Darkseid is a GOD.
he would stomp Buu.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:02 AM

Darkseid is a NEW GOD.

Fixed.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:15 AM

Darkseid is a GOD.
he would stomp Buu.

Err...why make the match, then?...

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

No SBuu can win because no matter what you say it can happen. People forget that Buu can't be destroyed by most physical attacks and regenerates from all of them. DS doesn't have anything that can obliterate him totally. He's fast enough to just move around the omega beams and even if DS were to hit him his body can absorb the physical damage. So DS can't destroy him. Fact fact fact does not mean the battle would play out how you say simply because you go grab all these so called facts. You don't like to deal with probable things at all when its against a character you feel you know. Overall methos just say what you got to say and stop trying to hack up my comments all the time, its like its a personal attack on me all the time. Not that I care that much its just pointless. Dont make all comments seem like you have a vendetta on attacking me for what I am saying. I am not here to go back and forth with you. If I believe he can win there is no rule against that. DBZ characters with what they can do ARE on the level of Superman and that may not be your opinion or even belief yet you can't prove its wrong in my mind no matter how deep you dig. If you believe you are never wrong then go ahead and think that. I believe Super Buu would beat him, plus the martial arts skills he would have had from absorbing the people that he did would make him the way better fighter. I do not believe Darkseid would get him, and there's no law against that.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

That's true, there's absolutely no rules against being wrong.

And I don't just "hack up" your posts, in order to comment on them. I do that to everyone with sufficiently long posts. It makes it a lot easier to respond to each point in the post, and it makes it easier for people to see what I'm responding to with each comment.

And I do deal with "probable things". That's why, among other things, I have been able to give cases for both Thor and Superman winning in a match between them, depending on the circumstances of the fight.


But in this particular case, there is no "probability" of Buu winning the fight, he simply isn't powerful enough.

And you don't have to kill your opponent to win. Mentally controlling Buu, would give Darkseid the win, just as much as killing him would.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

Can you mentally control someone without a brain?

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:37 PM

You can mentally control anyone with a mental presence, that doesn't require a physical brain. Shadowking, to give an example, is a high-level telepath and does not have a physical brain.

As for how it has anything to do with this particular match, is something I've got to hear. You're claiming that Buu doesn't have a brain?


Edit: Btw, anyone wanna bet, that despite the fact that Anu tends to get annoyed when a point he has made is ignored, he is going to either completely ignore every single point I've made(as he has already done once in this thread), or he isn't going to post in this thread again? :) I do hope I'm wrong about that though(it would be a pleasant surprise).

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:42 PM

Well you said he could just mentally control buu. And does he? I can't rightly remember.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

Well you said he could just mentally control buu. And does he? I can't rightly remember.

Yes. His brain just isn't... fully developed. It's like he has the brain of a child, and then as a monster as Kid Buu. Where he just wants to destroy everything. But yes, he has a brain.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:17 AM

Again no need to make your attacks personal methos...you are getting a bit juvenile to be so 'smart'. Again you can ignore my posts like some have done or just accept the fact that I have a right to my own opinion. I am not here to debate with you, so do whatever you wish, you want to follow all my comments then do whatever. Overall that doesn't mean that I am wrong to think Super Buu would beat him.

Yes he would, he has a lot of abilities that people overlook and my style isn't to try to prove how right or wrong I am. If that is what makes your world spin then hey..good for you...yet you don't tell me how to think..Super Buu is more powerful than Darkseid and couldn't be hurt by him because he's a creature of magic afterall and nobody seems to remember that. Buu can take hits with his body being as pliable as it is, keep coming back for more. The Omega Beam he would dodge or it would pass right through him. DS is in for a long battle...he'd get turned to choclate or flat out devastated.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:19 AM

That's true, there's absolutely no rules against being wrong.

And I don't just "hack up" your posts, in order to comment on them. I do that to everyone with sufficiently long posts. It makes it a lot easier to respond to each point in the post, and it makes it easier for people to see what I'm responding to with each comment.

And I do deal with "probable things". That's why, among other things, I have been able to give cases for both Thor and Superman winning in a match between them, depending on the circumstances of the fight.


But in this particular case, there is no "probability" of Buu winning the fight, he simply isn't powerful enough.

And you don't have to kill your opponent to win. Mentally controlling Buu, would give Darkseid the win, just as much as killing him would.


No, Darkseid can't Kill Buu, he doesn't have the power to totally break up his atoms. Buu can come back from being blown to every bit as long as something is left and Darkseid doesn't use power that explodes any being like that.




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