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[Delta Force]

Their might be a long line of people that should be in this thread but i'm only interested in two. If it make you feel any better I'll do apart two with 5 vs 5 requests. To make the fight even no one has armor ,and no knowledge of opponent. It will take place in a grassy field. they start 3 meters away.

Führer King Bradley aka Wrath the Furious from brotherhood.
Equipment: 3 hand grenades, 2 Swords ,and 2 daggers
&

Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke the Terminator .
Equipment: Sword, 2 pistols 2 extra mags, 3 hand grenades.

For those of you who don't know Wrath episode 56 on up has a good display of abilities.

[KibaxHinata]

I'd give it to Bradley. He has quick regeneration, at least above average speed of a human, and the intelligence and willpower to fight even the best humans. Deathstroke's bullets would end up being cut down and grenades would likely miss or not cause enough damage to slow him down. In the end, close fight, but Bradley takes the cake.

[Darxeth]

I actually think Deathstroke takes this. Is he using his prometheum sword?

[Delta Force]

I actually think Deathstroke takes this. Is he using his prometheum sword?

Yeah

[Darxeth]

Oh yeah, Slade def. wins.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Bradley's got this.

[Darxeth]

Bradley's got this.

Nah

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Eh. It'd be an awesome fight to see anyway.

[sirmethos]

Truly a riveting debate so far, you are really making your cases, showcasing your wide knowledge of the characters you're arguing for.[/sarcasm]

That said, I don't really know much about Bradley, but from what I've been able to find, Deathstroke definitely wins.

Though I am, as always, willing to be persuaded otherwise.

[DamagingRob]

I don't know. Bradley actually can be killed, unlike Deadpool, who he just went up against recently. If I knew more about Deathstroke, I could probably give a better opinion.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

When someone actually bothers to give a reason as to why Deathstroke wins, I will refute it. There's not much I can do when someone just says "Deathstroke wins" without backing up their words whatsoever.

[DamagingRob]

Well, I'm not really saying who I think would win. Again, I don't know enough about Deathstroke. But, likewise, Methos doesn't know a lot about Bradley. And researching, there are two different ones. The one used in this match is the canon Brotherhood/Manga. Not the spin-off first series, where a body part from the person they were created from, has to be near them for them to be weakened to a point that they can then be killed. The Brotherhood Homunculi can die. They have like so many lives before the power of their Philosopher's Stone runs out. I just wanted to be sure he knew that. Might help him make a clearer decision.

[sirmethos]

Alright, I'll make a case for Deathstroke.

First his capabilities:

Strength: Deathstroke has "the strength of 10 men", which puts his strength level at somewhere between 1800 lbs and 11.000 lbs.

Speed: Has a march speed(i.e. top speed that he can keep up almost indefinitely) of roughly 30 MpH. His movement speed(the speed of punches, blocks, sword swings, etc.) is far faster. Being able to move his Bastard Sword from holding it by his side(the blade pointing forward, from his hip), across his body(to holding the sword so the blade points backwards, under his left arm), in split seconds.(a standard Bastard Sword weighs about 3.3 lbs, Deathstroke's sword, being made of Promethium, is denser, and thus heavier).

Reflexes: Fast enough to easily dodge, or even deflect, bullets. Stated as having "instantaneous reflexes".

Durability: Nothing specific stated, but since his strength is stated as coming from "his entire muscular structure being hardened and strengthened", this means that his durability is likewise enhanced. His durability is further enhanced by his Promethium Mesh armor. And further by his Regenerative Healing Factor.

Stamina: Due to his Healing Factor, his stamina is heightened to extreme degrees, being able to perform at peak for at least 24 hours.

And finally, his mind is enhanced, being 9 times more effective than that of a normal human. His most subtle and also most misunderstood ability.

His equipment(his promethium sword and promethium mesh armor) is superior to anything Bradley can bring to the table, which will end up with Bradley being disarmed after a few clashes of their blades.



There's a fair chance that Bradley is more skilled, but the mix of Deathstroke's Speed, Reflexes, Enhanced mind, and his equipment, is more than enough to give Deathstroke the win.

[Djgambrell]

I'll give it a go. Now I assume we're using the Brotherhood Fuhrer for a fair match

Strength: I'd put them around equal.

Speed: His speed is rather impressive for his age. Apparently faster in his prime. He is able to easily catch up to a speeding tank. He was able to run to and up a wall to kill a ninja who was fast herself could react to kill her.

Reflexes: Also a bullet dodger and reflector. Reacting to and cutting a tank shell whle almost directly in front of it. He moves fast enough to use five swords at once.

Durability: About the same. However he doesn't seem to wear armor.

Stamina: Same.

While not having a mind such as slades it far surpasses a normal human.

Ultimate Eye: His left eye gives him the ability to read his opponents with enough accuracy as to avoid oncoming attacks from various types of superhumans without effort.

Swords: While they look normal they seem to be able to cut through a tanks plate steel without resistance.

Lastly while bradley doesn't have quite the same equipment I believe his unorthodox 5 sword style coupled with his skills and abilities at least makes for an interesting match.

[sirmethos]

I'm seeing a lot of opinion and assumptions.

"I'd put them around equal." Ok, but where you, or I for that matter, would put them doesn't matter the slightest. If he doesn't have any stated capabilities, then give some specific examples, as you did with his Speed and Reflexes.

Likewise, you claim that their Durability and Stamina is "the same", But you don't give any actual reason for why you believe that. I've given a specific explanation for both Deathstroke's Durability(based on what is stated about his strength) and his Stamina(based on his Healing Factor).

The same goes for Bradley's mind. Deathstroke's mental enhancement is a part of his stated capabilities. To the best of my knowledge, nothing has been directly stated about Bradley's mind. Thus, examples.


As far as I know, Bradley doesn't have enhanced regeneration(or at least to a far lower degree than the other Homunculus), and without regeneration, there is a very low chance of matching stamina against someone who does have a regenerative healing factor. Especially since he then gets slowed down whenever he gets anything more than an absolutely minimal injury.

[Djgambrell]

I'm seeing a lot of opinion and assumptions.

"I'd put them around equal." Ok, but where you, or I for that matter, would put them doesn't matter the slightest. If he doesn't have any stated capabilities, then give some specific examples, as you did with his Speed and Reflexes.

Likewise, you claim that their Durability and Stamina is "the same", But you don't give any actual reason for why you believe that. I've given a specific explanation for both Deathstroke's Durability(based on what is stated about his strength) and his Stamina(based on his Healing Factor).

The same goes for Bradley's mind. Deathstroke's mental enhancement is a part of his stated capabilities. To the best of my knowledge, nothing has been directly stated about Bradley's mind. Thus, examples.


As far as I know, Bradley doesn't have enhanced regeneration(or at least to a far lower degree than the other Homunculus), and without regeneration, there is a very low chance of matching stamina against someone who does have a regenerative healing factor. Especially since he then gets slowed down whenever he gets anything more than an absolutely minimal injury.

Its been awhile since I've watched it so I don't remember any solid examples of strength besides his besting the armors that held peoples souls.

I can't say how long he can fight because It hasn't been stated and they never last very long.Though with his regeneration I would guess they're around the same considering they're regen

For the durability and stamina he has shown taking multiple stabs and slashes that would be fatal and continuing to fight. And yes he has regeneration but to a lesser degree than other Homunculi.

For his mind I would say its superior in that he always knows what his enmeies will do or try. His strategies are such that the only reason he was surprised was because he thought the man was dead.

Could you give some info on Deathstrokes regeneration? Like did he have a bullet to the head or such? In case I missed something.

[force_echo]

No, Slade can't survive a bullet to the head.

[sirmethos]

Actually, yes he can.

That's how he lost his eye, his ex shot him in the face.

Lethal injuries, such as a bullet to the head, or an impaled heart(as well as other sufficiently 'bad' injuries), turns him feral(basically berserk) until the injury is healed.

[Djgambrell]

Actually, yes he can.

That's how he lost his eye, his ex shot him in the face.

Lethal injuries, such as a bullet to the head, or an impaled heart(as well as other sufficiently 'bad' injuries), turns him feral(basically berserk) until the injury is healed.

Bradley never did so I don't feel safe saying he can as well.

[Darksaiyajin345]

Didn't bradley cut tank shells down?
And doesnt he have that Ultimate eye thing that lets him predict his opponents movments?