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[Djgambrell]

All I got out of that was bang more cheerleaders.

[Soberguy]

Then what in the heck got you on this forum? The debate is the reason.

I only come on the CBUB forums to remind you all that these "debates" are a waste of time - usually in a condescending yet humourous manner. I think I've been fairly consistant on this position for many years.

-- garbled rehashing of previous arguments and completely missing my point --

See what I mean?

I guess the problem with the debates on CBUB is that they are usually not really debates. They start with a broad, ill-defined premise or question and end with nerds threatening to beat each other up with all that martial arts training they pretend to have. In between, we have people cherry-picking equally valid yet contradictory evidence from the comic book canon and basically saying "There... HA!"

[force_echo]

Agree to disagree because the Hulk is not that strong..

It's official. You are retarded. How are you not getting it? You can't tell the f*cking creators of a fictional character how strong their character is.

Creator: "I just made a character. He's strong enough to lift a moon."
Dumbass: "No he can't. Your character isn't strong enough to lift a moon!"
Creator: "What the f*ck?"

[shellsbut]

Then what in the heck got you on this forum? The debate is the reason. And these aren't facts if they are fantasy in the first place. its ok to believe that anything can happen but NOT ok to believe it can't???? If the writers can do anything then fine yet there is no rule that says you are WRONG to not agree with it. Logically they are going against the limits of their own writing. Nobody is doing the math and sees that there is no amount of rage that would make the Hulk strong enough to lift planet earth. No way. He has never lifted a planet. There is no way he could because how would even put that much weight in a position over him or wherever so he could do it? Even with Fantasy this could not be.

How crazy is it to think that rage could grow that much? Really its ok if the writers said it? Rectonn or whatever they should have some kind of sense to their stories. Its not facts its just what you want to believe. All this stuff about the Hulk being the god of strength? No scan from a comic on that, never happened probably. Methos doesn't have every comic in existence and there was no true rating on what class the Hulk was during WWH and I don't even think they contined to accept that story in the marvel universe. after all didn't they say the Civil war never happened as far as the Marvel Universe is concerned?

WWH didn't happen anyway from what it looks like. Really, so the Hulk could increase his strength beyond anything Thor could do with his magic and people said that Thor is over Super Saiyan level with that....hah.....man anything to support a character you like. Its not facts it's just personal preference. Agree to disagree because the Hulk is not that strong..

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(I look forward to many more moronic posts by you as this may be only the begining of things)

When it come to this topic,

ARE YOU *vulgarity*ING RETARDED???
lack the ability to read
or just genetically stupid



They didnt continue the WWH storyline? WWH didnt happen? Are you really that stupid?

PAK'S ENTIRE RUN from the start of Planet Hulk to the end with Heart of the Monster was for all intents and purposes one huge storyling you idoit. It is clearly laid out that in HOTM that during WWH he uses on the smallest fraction of his real power. Hulk will NEVER go all out if it endangers truely endangers innocents that is why the HOTM storyline ends up in the Dark Dimension. It is one of the few places he CAN go all out without hurting endangering innocent people. He destroys planets on a whim one punch, he is immortal, he can tear apart reality (The Dark DImension) by hand. He needed to be banished back to earth by Umar to save her dimension. Man if you are hung up on Hulk's power during WWH you should just go back to your hole and give up comics because that is nothing compared to later storylines by Pak. You also come off as a petty little troll that some how thinks his own opinions of a characters some how means something or have any validity to them given the writers and others working on Hulk, and Marvel editors and chiefs all gave the ok and a thumbs up to all of what has transpired in Hulk comics over the last few years which is in stark contradiction to your own petty (AND OUT RIGHT WRONG) beliefs.

Comics in general might not be the best thing for you because this kind of stuff happens alot.

[sirmethos]

Lol, hey Shells.

Who'd have thought that we would actually agree, on anything

Just kinda underlines the point.

[xman4life]

point blank hulk IS that strong and has shown to be that strong. IF say Hulk got up and wanted to i dunno lift a mountain he could. You have never seen a comic where the hulk cant lift something. Even if the first initial lift he doesn't the fact that it pissed him off would damn sure make him lift it the 2nd or 3rd time. Dude not to diss you in anyway but please I'm begging you pick up a comic a read it before making claims that anyone who reads comics can easily dismiss you........EASILY.

and the mention about civil war......dude read some comics!!! that made a major shift in marvel so yeah it happened and they still acknowledge it.


The mention of WWH.........it happened, it's canon and they still talk about it.


Mentioning Thor...if Thor wanted to kill the Hulk he could and easily along with 99.9 percent of the heroes and villains on earth. You know what happens when Thor doesn't hold back. He is called rune king Thor and he ruled the earth for thousands of years until HE(Thor)got bored and fixed time. Do you know who Thor is like when he has no regard for human life........ODIN. and Nobody wants to tangle with Odin. Talk about someone who probably gotten beat by only 4 people ever in thousands ands thousands of years and could casually "will" you away.

The only events you could make as far as may or may not happen are crossovers. other then that

Second Coming
Messiah Complex
Fear Itself
Chaos War
Civil War
WWH
Planet Hulk
Dark Reign
Seige
Necrosha
Curse of the Mutants
Schism
Avengers Disassemble

they all happened.

[shellsbut]

Lol, hey Shells.

Who'd have thought that we would actually agree, on anything

Just kinda underlines the point.

LOL yeah its almost too scary. What is the temperature in hell right now, it's got to be chilly

[bigballerju]

Heh hell must be frozen over indeed if Force Echo, Shellsbut, Xman, and Methos are all on the same side.

[Nova Force Nova]

You know it's bad when you got these guys calling you stupid.

[shellsbut]

Mentioning Thor...if Thor wanted to kill the Hulk he could and easily along with 99.9 percent of the heroes and villains on earth. You know what happens when Thor doesn't hold back. He is called rune king Thor and he ruled the earth for thousands of years until HE(Thor)got bored and fixed time. Do you know who Thor is like when he has no regard for human life........ODIN. and Nobody wants to tangle with Odin. Talk about someone who probably gotten beat by only 4 people ever in thousands ands thousands of years and could casually "will" you away.

Um sorry but you are wrong. Rune King Thor IS NOT Thor going all out. Rune King Thor has been given NUMEROUS massive power ups, it is NOT his own abilities at all, that is like saying Capatin Universe Hulk was Hulk going all out..

[kainboa]

Um sorry but you are wrong. Rune King Thor IS NOT Thor going all out. Rune King Thor has been given NUMEROUS massive power ups, it is NOT his own abilities at all, that is like saying Capatin Universe Hulk was Hulk going all out..

He's only gotten 2 power ups, one is the Odin-force, and the other is the Runes.

[Nova Force Nova]

Hulk will never get strong enough to lift a planet or overpower a cosmic entity in Marvel...simple as that...

Except he has done those things, many times. Simple as that. Some whiny kid on the Internet is not a more credible source than the creators and writers. He's as strong as the writers need him to be, that's why everyone is calling you a moron, it's not because you can't have an opinion. You can have one. It's just so stupid that it defies belief and is begging for a mocking.

[Nova Force Nova]

Hahahaha.

[sirmethos]

What gets me is that I can't post my opinion without being called everything in the book for it...amazing..hey, its my right to feel how I wish, you can do it so can i...so your opinion is yours mine is mine. ...all the cursing and slander over an opinion..wow..

Curse, call me whatever, burst a blood vessel...the Hulk will never get strong enough to lift a planet or overpower a cosmic entity in Marvel...simple as that...

Here come the curse words and these are the people that are so ..intelligent? What intelligence causes you to go all crazy on somebody calling them all this stuff simply because they have their own opinion? WOW...socialism must be what you want...

It's not a matter of opinion.

Hulk can become strong enough to lift (a lot)more than a million tons. There is several pieces of proof of this in the comics, he has already done it on more than one occasion.

[Soberguy]

WOW...socialism must be what you want...

Socialism isn't so bad.

Sincerely,
Canada

[sirmethos]

"He's not immortal and can die."

Depends on your definition of immortal.

Hulk is just as immortal as Thor, Hercules, Odin, Zeus and any other God from Marvel.


"Well, hey show a scan of him lifting a planet then?"

Try to stick to one 'topic'. Your original claim(that you have repeated several times in this thread), is that "Hulk cannot become strong enough to lift a million tons".

I have never said anything about lifting a planet. Destroying a planet, yes(proven in the comics). Lift far more than a million tons, yes(proven in the comics).

Have his strength multiply more than 1000 times his baseline, yes(proven in the comics).

But I've never said anything about lifting a planet.

Could he do it? Potentially, yes. Hulk has potentially unlimited strength, which means that there is no limit on how much his strength can increase. Has he actually been at a strength level where he could have done it? I'm not sure, I haven't checked the weight of a planet, so that I could compare that to Hulk's upper level feats, but off the top of my head, I'd say yes. Has he ever actually lifted a planet? Off the top of my head, I'd say no.