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Match 10674 Darth Vader vs. God of War Kratos


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#21 G4hardcore

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:35 PM

Except Vader could do it out of Krato's sight. Or you know... restrain Kratos entirely while choking him.

Seriously.

HE CAN DO IT EASILY.

Nope. Nobody in his universe, not even Hercules, could restrain Kratos. He tossed the Colossus of Rhodes like it was a toy, and fought against the pressure of Atlas and Kronos. I doubt the Force pushes of Vader can match that.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:37 PM

Not to mention, Vader could easily cripple Kratos by attacking his organs... oops, there went a lung... there a kidney... dang his bladder... oh snap, his liver...

Not if he has superhuman durability.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:38 PM

I'd say Kratos is superior after watching the SW movies. Set-up rates an 'it's good', a few minor spelling errors were all I noticed, e.g 'Pagan'.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:44 PM

...Force Precognition is prevalent in about all the Force Users.

http://starwars.wiki...ki/Precognition

See "universal". He has it.

Anyhow...

Vader has crushed Durasteel I believe with his own force crush. "Darth Vader, who would not hesitate to use Force Crush and similar techniques on Imperial personnel that he deemed incompetent, was capable of crushing small vehicles on the battlefield." I have reason to believe durasteel would be utilized in their construction. That's a super metal in its own right... which would mean: Yes. Vader crushes Kratos' Organs.

So? Even with Kratos' Danger Sense, he has no defense against being lifted up into the air, restrained in place by the Force (It doesn't have to be physically... he can shred the muscles and organs to restrain him that way) and proceed to Force Choke him all he wants.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:46 PM

Nope. Nobody in his universe, not even Hercules, could restrain Kratos. He tossed the Colossus of Rhodes like it was a toy, and fought against the pressure of Atlas and Kronos. I doubt the Force pushes of Vader can match that.

Heh. Why do you think in a rudimentary way?

Again: Organs, muscles, tissues. Vader can shred. And you've yet to provide how Kratos would get out of a Force Lift despite the fact Vader would be able to react to any potential attacks and potentially prevent them.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:50 PM

...Force Precognition is prevalent in about all the Force Users.

http://starwars.wiki...ki/Precognition

See "universal". He has it.

Anyhow...

Vader has crushed Durasteel I believe with his own force crush. "Darth Vader, who would not hesitate to use Force Crush and similar techniques on Imperial personnel that he deemed incompetent, was capable of crushing small vehicles on the battlefield." I have reason to believe durasteel would be utilized in their construction. That's a super metal in its own right... which would mean: Yes. Vader crushes Kratos' Organs.

So? Even with Kratos' Danger Sense, he has no defense against being lifted up into the air, restrained in place by the Force (It doesn't have to be physically... he can shred the muscles and organs to restrain him that way) and proceed to Force Choke him all he wants.

You believe? Can you prove it was durasteel?

Crap, I'll respond more later. Work.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:57 PM

You believe? Can you prove it was durasteel?

Crap, I'll respond more later. Work.

I'd have to find the instances where he has crushed those vehicles... which means... novels and comics. *sigh* Not a fun time. Lemme hit up a Vader Respect Feat to see if they have any (Which I heavily doubt.).

Those vehicles were made for warfare and so it goes with reason to think that such an incredibly strong and durable material, that's heavily prevalent throughout Star War's universe, would be utilized in their composition.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:29 PM

I'd have to find the instances where he has crushed those vehicles... which means... novels and comics. *sigh* Not a fun time. Lemme hit up a Vader Respect Feat to see if they have any (Which I heavily doubt.).

Those vehicles were made for warfare and so it goes with reason to think that such an incredibly strong and durable material, that's heavily prevalent throughout Star War's universe, would be utilized in their composition.

Ah, but it's still seems like speculation to me. Unless you can give me proof that the vehicles he crushed in that instance were made of durasteel, I see no reason to assume that those vehicles actually were made of durasteel, simply because it's a highly durable material. Since we're speculating here, (no offense whatsoever) one could say those particular vehicles were made with speed in mind, so they utilized a more lightweight material. Really, one could say plenty of things, but I'd rather not come up with a list. Basically, all I want is a solid affirmation that Vader crushed/shredded durasteel-composed vehicles.
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

But that's what the repulsor lifts were for, negating heavy weight and allowing speedy movement... >.>

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:51 PM

Oh, I've found an instance of Anakin/Vader force crushing a durasteel door.

Buttttt its from the words of a poster in another thread...

I shall continue the search!

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:54 PM

But that's what the repulsor lifts were for, negating heavy weight and allowing speedy movement... >.>

Not the point!

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:57 PM

Bleh, I'm tired of searching for it.

I'll take a break now.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 09:40 PM

Bleh, I'm tired of searching for it.

I'll take a break now.

That's cool. So then--for now--the matter of Vader's ability to crush his organs is not up for debate.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 05:54 PM

That's cool. So then--for now--the matter of Vader's ability to crush his organs is not up for debate.

Honestly, I have to give the edge to Kratos. If you look at the two characters at once, you will see things such as this:
1-Kratos has killed IMMORTALS, whereas, Darth Vader basically killed average people with superhuman powers.
2-Kratos was a Spartan general, the highest rank next to king in Sparta. Vader achieved rank of Dark Lord, but achieving that was quite effortless if you watch SW episode 3.
3-Kratos had the powers of gods who are immortal, whereas, Vader died in the explosion of his own creation. the Death Star.
4-Kratos was killed by Zeus in GoW 2, and he climbed right back out of hell as if it was nothing.
5- all of that, and if you have played the games, Kratos blocked attacks that are exactly like force powers every time that he went up against a god or a titan.

As far as I can see, Kratos takes this with nearly no effort, although it will take a fairly long time to achieve, considering that he IS dealing with a force wielder.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:18 PM

Not to mention Kratos has the Golden Fleece. He could deflect the force attacks that Vader sends at him and just send them back at him Tenfold.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 11:11 PM

Ugh, the necro... :rolleyes:

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:42 PM

Necroriding!

Plus, Kratos and Vader are both bald, but since Vader has a cape instead of tatoos, there's no way he can win.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:22 PM

Vader also has a badass armored suit as opposed to Kratos's underwear. :D

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:15 PM

loincloth. its a loincloth. and also, his combination of tattoos and loincloth pits a 2,000,000 awsomeness points as to vaders 1,000,000. haha.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

All military vehicles of the Empire were made out of durasteel.




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