Jump to content


Photo

Ultimate Captain America vs Deathstroke


  • Please log in to reply
138 replies to this topic

#61 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:50 AM

Your kidding with that link to a site thats not DC and is some site someone created. Slade is not immortal. Enough on that.


How come he always comes back when he's killed?

Show me who Captain America defeated has that is as smart, experienced, intuitive, ruthless, and strong as deathstroke?

#62 tomisntblue

tomisntblue

    ANNND now for something you'll really like. (It's cookie

  • CBUB Match Judges
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,760 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portland Oregon

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:08 AM

How come he always comes back when he's killed?


Because that's what comic book characters do.

#63 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:12 AM

Because that's what comic book characters do.


Usually, based on plot devices.
But I don't think him coming back is actually a plot device sense the reasons for him coming back are mostly consistent: His healing factor.
His resurrections need no explaining whilst most comic characters take a longer amount of time to come back and with different reasons.

Regardless, I stand firm about Deathstroke being victorious.
I respect all of your opinions, please respect mine.

We can all agree that it would be one hell of a fight, yes?

#64 Square Pickle

Square Pickle

    I'm a Jim Cornette guy

  • CBUB Match Judges
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 655 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Pickle Jar, IL
  • Interests:Electricferret.com

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:20 AM

With a fight this even in stats... Im gonna say the difference maker might be "Martial-Art h2h vs Army h2h"... Sorry Cap. :P

#65 AVP vs The Terminator

AVP vs The Terminator

    Will never see the Adult Board

  • CBUB Character Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,068 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ireland
  • Interests:Comics. Movies. Video Games. TV.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:24 AM

Wait, I'm just gonna address a few disrepancies here, without debating on the actual fight.

1. Deathstroke can't lift six tons. :/ He's stated as possessing the strength of ten men, but his best showing is ripping and airplane door off while in-flight, which would put him at around four tons... on the same level as Cap.

2. Where are you getting "Ultimate Cap < 616 Cap in skill" from? They're completely even in skill. Marvel has them ranked on the same level. The difference is that Ultimate Cap fights dirty.

Here are some reliable links to the characters:

http://dc.wikia.com/...son_(New_Earth)
http://marvel.wikia....rs_(Earth-1610)

Edit: Oh, and Cap regenerates from stab and bullet wounds in minutes, just like Deathstroke. It's bad injuries that take days to heal. Regardless, neither are unkillable. Their healing factors aren't on par with the likes of Wolverine's. Cap twists Deathstroke's neck 360 degrees? He's dead. Deathstroke impales Cap through the chest? He's dead.

#66 MarvelFan15

MarvelFan15

    May I polish your boots, Marvel Man ?

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,639 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Asgard...
  • Interests:Fighting Frost-Giants, demons, Loki, and DC fanboys. Also: Sports, Movies, Comics, TV, Games (of any sort), books, cars, girls, and Video Games.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:29 AM

If anything, they should probably be considered even in most aspects. The only superior aspect that Ultimate Cap has is his healing ability, and a stated strength level, which 616 Cap has been displayed as having close to for nearly his entire run.

Just my opinion though.

#67 AVP vs The Terminator

AVP vs The Terminator

    Will never see the Adult Board

  • CBUB Character Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,068 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ireland
  • Interests:Comics. Movies. Video Games. TV.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:35 AM

If anything, they should probably be considered even in most aspects. The only superior aspect that Ultimate Cap has is his healing ability, and a stated strength level, which 616 Cap has been displayed as having close to for nearly his entire run.

Just my opinion though.

True. I usually take stated capabilities over feats though, mainly because feats can vary wildly. In one issue you see Cap casually tossing Big Bertha like a baseball; in another, you see Crossbones overpowering him.

#68 Nova Force Nova

Nova Force Nova

    Deadpan Snarker

  • CBUB Character Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,957 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:A couch near you.
  • Interests:Interesting stuff.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 07:39 AM

Um, there are no Marvel humans on par with DC's best humans. (Save for Iron Man)


No. Just no.

#69 xman4life

xman4life

    Kneel before Zod

  • Banned
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,441 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta
  • Interests:Comics, Women, Weed, and Food. Not to mention MONEY

Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:33 AM

So daredevil's superhuman senses and Moon Knight's ability to become stronger during the full moon are considered human? Interesting.

Iron Fist has a chi ability and his hand literally glows (If I'm not mistaken). How is that human?

Daredevil is more or less Nightwing with superhuman senses. Isn't he super sensitive to sound? You know, the kind of sounds that Batman's ultrasonic batarangs emit. :P

I listed them because if they aren't human they what do you call deathstroke? lol if he's human then daredevil is human and so is iron fist.

#70 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:53 PM

Wait, I'm just gonna address a few disrepancies here, without debating on the actual fight.

1. Deathstroke can't lift six tons. :/ He's stated as possessing the strength of ten men, but his best showing is ripping and airplane door off while in-flight, which would put him at around four tons... on the same level as Cap.

2. Where are you getting "Ultimate Cap < 616 Cap in skill" from? They're completely even in skill. Marvel has them ranked on the same level. The difference is that Ultimate Cap fights dirty.

Here are some reliable links to the characters:

http://dc.wikia.com/...son_(New_Earth)
http://marvel.wikia....rs_(Earth-1610)

Edit: Oh, and Cap regenerates from stab and bullet wounds in minutes, just like Deathstroke. It's bad injuries that take days to heal. Regardless, neither are unkillable. Their healing factors aren't on par with the likes of Wolverine's. Cap twists Deathstroke's neck 360 degrees? He's dead. Deathstroke impales Cap through the chest? He's dead.


So a wiki that anyone can change is reliable?

Besides, Deathstroke's got this :P

#71 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:14 PM

I listed them because if they aren't human they what do you call deathstroke? lol if he's human then daredevil is human and so is iron fist.

I listed deathstroke as a metahuman, duh! :P

#72 AVP vs The Terminator

AVP vs The Terminator

    Will never see the Adult Board

  • CBUB Character Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,068 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ireland
  • Interests:Comics. Movies. Video Games. TV.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:17 PM

So a wiki that anyone can change is reliable?

Besides, Deathstroke's got this :P

It's more accurate than whatever said Slade can lift six tons.

#73 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

http://i220.photobuc...hstroke_400.jpg

'Nuff said. :]

#74 AVP vs The Terminator

AVP vs The Terminator

    Will never see the Adult Board

  • CBUB Character Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,068 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ireland
  • Interests:Comics. Movies. Video Games. TV.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:49 PM

Posted Image

Touche.

#75 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:53 PM

http://media.comicvi...sis__3_pg09.jpg

#76 Hayesmeister5651

Hayesmeister5651

    That guy with poo brains

  • CBUB Match Judges
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,047 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Batcave
  • Interests:Things

Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:57 PM

Well everything I would have said, has been said.

Deathstroke wins here.

#77 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:00 PM

Well everything I would have said, has been said.

Deathstroke wins here.


This guy gets it.

#78 AVP vs The Terminator

AVP vs The Terminator

    Will never see the Adult Board

  • CBUB Character Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,068 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ireland
  • Interests:Comics. Movies. Video Games. TV.

Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:01 PM

Posted Image

You know he technically lost that fight against the JLA.

#79 Darxeth

Darxeth

    Nuking the site from orbit

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,500 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raccoon City

Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:06 PM

You know he technically lost that fight against the JLA.


I know, by a hair. :/

But, he overpowered Kyle who was wearing the "most powerful weapon in the universe."

Or he would have, had Green Arrow not intervened.

Still, Deathstroke has to very strong to overpower a green lantern's will.

#80 force_echo

force_echo

    Pretentious, Obnoxious, Annoying...humanity's last hope

  • CBUB Match Judges
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,750 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Charlotte, NC
  • Interests:Anything Interesting

Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:07 PM

Still, Deathstroke has to very strong to overpower a green lantern's will.

BUT HE DIDN'T!




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users