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#1 Ivan

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:44 AM

Got ideas for characters or storylines? Post 'em in this thread and we'll discuss them!

#2 Jason Redfield

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:08 PM

Thanks for this, Ivan. I've actually been planning a character, attempting to decide whether he should go it alone or whether I should toss him in the Syndicate.

Essentially, he's a rogue CIA case officer. Not simply an evil version of Redfield; he's a different animal altogether. While officially working for the Agency, he ran a lot of missions that were "on the line" -- very secretive, very questionable. He has since decided government work isn't quite fulfilling as it once was and transferred his operations to Khazan City (there are other reasons as well, but those will come later).

So, basically the idea is that he starts his own miniature organization consisting of himself as the magnificent bastard at its head, with a small army of ex-black ops guys, mercenaries, and criminals doing his dirty work for him. Part of me wants him to join the Syndicate (after all, he does have something to offer them with his government resources and skill set), perhaps explaining it in that he has worked with the Pantheon before and thus has the necessary connections. He wouldn't be officially part of the Syndicate's main body so much as contracted out to them and having a close working relationship, if that makes sense.

So, would the Syndicate go for this kind of partnership, or would it make more sense for him to be a Solo Villain?

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:39 PM

I think the Syndicate should observe Wacky Hat Fridays. It'd be good for team morale and keep things light.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:42 PM

I think the Syndicate should observe Wacky Hat Fridays. It'd be good for team morale and keep things light.


I concur. Dibs on the propeller hat.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 03:09 PM

Ok, so, here's the idea I had for the Syndicate.

Peppered all throughout the world are places called "Havens" where Syndicate members live. There are a lot of these. Most of them are particularly unglamorous - but at the higher level, some havens are full on Hotels or Suites.

Each Haven has an owner. These owners maintain their Havens. They may live in them, but not necessarily.

There is some kind of way to get in - I haven't decided yet. Maybe it's different everywhere, a code or a knock that spreads by word of mouth. I dunno.

So yeah, that was my idea. Syndicate Havens.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:49 PM

Can we start with one Syndicate Haven, in Khazan? I think if maybe you describe one, so we can see how you're going to use it in a story, it would make sense. If I'm understanding this correctly, it's a sort of safehouse where Syndicate members can disappear for a while? I'm down with that. If you're trying to set up Syndicate dorms or something, I'd shy away from that idea. Tony Soprano has a house in the suburbs. Sal Maroni and Carmine Falcone have large estates. Deadpool has an apartment, David Cain has a lair, and Goldfinger owns several properties. Now think of all the second in commands, the henchmen, the grunts, the accountants, the gardeners, the truck drivers. Having Syndicate members "shack up" together just makes a more opportune target for vigilantes. Remember many of these characters have legitimate lives, legitimate business contacts, and families. I'm not against a single Syndicate Haven, like a Casino/Hotel that is solidly in the middle of prime Syndicate "turf" where even the SLJ might hesitate to tread (at least without a warrant and plenty of backup,) but having all the Syndicate members all over the world live together in pockets would be like painting a "LEGION OF CRIME... STOP US IF YOU DARE" sign on the front door. Does that make sense?

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:10 AM

That's probably a better idea for what the Syndicate is. It's just that I think it's a little difficult to write syndicate characters because they're all involved in high crime. I just want to introduce some petty theft and gang activity into the mix. For low-level Syndicate-ers.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 10:44 AM

That's probably a better idea for what the Syndicate is. It's just that I think it's a little difficult to write syndicate characters because they're all involved in high crime. I just want to introduce some petty theft and gang activity into the mix. For low-level Syndicate-ers.

You could definitely do that. The street-level criminals are petty theft guys, with a few gangs thrown in for good measure. Not everyone is selling nukes to international terrorists, some syndicate guys are just blue-collar criminals trying to make a living.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 02:18 PM

So then I think it would be cool for us to make a Syndicate Villa. Maybe a house or property of group of properties, maybe a whole neighborhood, whatever. Just kind of a base for the Big Bad Syndicate in Khazan.

Ideas that I have are 1. A big old palace house that is shrouded in mystery. 2. A tailor and/or tailors, because the Syndicate loves its dress.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:22 PM

So then I think it would be cool for us to make a Syndicate Villa. Maybe a house or property of group of properties, maybe a whole neighborhood, whatever. Just kind of a base for the Big Bad Syndicate in Khazan.

Ideas that I have are 1. A big old palace house that is shrouded in mystery. 2. A tailor and/or tailors, because the Syndicate loves its dress.



Absolutely. We were actually already planning to do something like this, because the original group that filled the FPL slot the Syndicate currently occupies was called The Marauders, and one of the mainstays of Marauder continuity was the "Marauder Mansion." Historically it wasn't a home for any of the leadership, but parts of it served as housing for various degrees of occupants (including some who were there unwillingly.) I'd like to throw in new versions of Dodger and Lynde from the old Kill Captain Khazan fic who will act as Syndicate appraisers, helping assess the value and history of exotic stolen goods. A Syndicate Mansion (possibly in Villa Lobos) would be a perfect place for them to set up shop.

I do like that an emphasis is being placed on the street level crimes- while gang activity doesn't always fall under organized crime, using gang members as frontline soldiers for economic, social, and political maneuverings is very much something the Syndicate would do. Also, they are involved in things like gambling, extortion, racketeering, smuggling, prostitution, drugs, and weapons, so naturally those enterprises require their own command structures. I will try and redo the Syndicate thread this weekend.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:58 PM

Now, what does the mansion look like. Because to me, it's like a big old palace with tons of smaller assorted buildings and storefronts scattered all around. I don't need answers, really. But I figure the Syndicate Palace is Villa Lobos is pretty important.

Why is no one else saying anything? Is it just that the Syndicate is hard to write for?

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 11:35 PM

The Syndicate is probably the easiest group to write for, in all actuality. You write your little criminal enterprise, whatever it may be, and it just so happens that the head of that criminal enterprise answers to a higher criminal authority.

I'd stay away from a medieval castle/town with "storefronts." What about a chateauesque property? I was thinking something like the Biltmore Estate.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 02:33 AM

I always assumed the Watermark Hotel was Syndicate headquarters. Not to say they couldn't have different properties for different purposes though.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:10 AM

I thought the Angels were a loosely held together matrix of gangs and by contrast the Syndicate was one tight organization. But if any gang in Khazan can have its ties to the Syndicate, then it is a lot easier to write for, indeed.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:42 AM

The AoM aren't gangs! They are groups of vigilantes, whose sole focus is taking down criminals. The AoM's operation is dedicated to the ideal of Justice. The various Syndicate operations are dedicated to the ideal of profit. See the difference? In fact, the biggest problem for the Angels is financing! The Syndicate, on the other hand, is almost completely focused on various enterprises which net them some serious income.

Really, they can be looked at as two different responses to the same situation. Somewhere along the line concerned citizens decided that unchecked criminal activity was dangerous to the community, and decided to do something about it. Similarly, somewhere along the line concerned criminals decided that unchecked criminal activity was dangerous to the criminals themselves, and decided to do something about it.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:53 AM

The Watermark is owned by Khazanian shipping magnate Catherine Levent. She owns LeVent International, which is one of the largest container shipping companies in the world. She inherited the enterprise from her father, and acts as CEO. Her husband, Martin, is CFO. Neither one of them is involved in any criminal enterprise.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

I would like to write a fic about the Syndicate retaking it's power in the world but I'm not sure if I would be allowed to write a story that would effect the time line of a main Team.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

I'm sure most of us would be glad to see some writing and story-making from you new guys, but if you're not sure about anything you're open to PM any of the vets. Pseudo, Deojusto, and I are usually very available and ready to write. I'd be happy to answer the questions that I can about Khazan canon.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

There's no such thing as a Timeline really. Do it up, mate. Write whatever you want.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:39 AM

Are there any Syndicate fics I should read before I start writing mine.




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