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#1 Hayesmeister5651

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:54 AM

So it seems like anytime DBZ is mentioned right away the fans start getting crap. Like Nilan said something along the lines "DBZ fans think it is the best written show", but I haven't seen one fan on this site say that. Matter of fact I think a lot of the fans here will say it doesn't have the best plot.

Another thing I noticed is some of you think DBZ fans here can't use logic. Again from what I have seen it is quite the opposite. I think every DBZ fan on this site uses intelligence when it comes to talking about the series. The only exception is The Dark Prince, but he hasn't been on in a while *knocks on wood*.

I joined in December of 2010 and since I have been here TDP is the only DBZ fan that would deserve flak. So I ask, before my time here were there a bunch of ravenous DBZ fans on the site? Did they all scream "Goku is teh best"?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:14 AM

The worst DBZ fans are illiterate, idiotic fanboys who wouldn't know a good story if it kicked them in the nards. They are deeply, emotionally invested in the belief that Goku could kick anyone's ass under any conditions and will loudly and violently argue (poorly) this point at the slightest provocation.

The best DBZ fans are people who really like a shitty, outdated Japanese cartoon show for children and occasionally gush about it on the internet.

There is a fairly wide swath between the two for open mockery.

#3 Hayesmeister5651

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:21 AM

The worst DBZ fans are illiterate, idiotic fanboys who wouldn't know a good story if it kicked them in the nards. They are deeply, emotionally invested in the belief that Goku could kick anyone's ass under any conditions and will loudly and violently argue (poorly) this point at the slightest provocation.

The best DBZ fans are people who really like a shitty, outdated Japanese cartoon show for children and occasionally gush about it on the internet.

There is a fairly wide swath between the two for open mockery.

But that seems you are describing fans in general, I am asking about the ones on EF. Besides all fanboys whether they like Goku or Superman are idiotic, illiterate, etc.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:37 AM

Besides all fanboys whether they like Goku or Superman are idiotic, illiterate, etc.



The general populace of the CBUB are idiotic and illiterate.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:40 AM

Trying to argue about Goku with a DBZ fan is like arguing with a Christian about God. No matter what logical corner you back them into, they escape by loudly proclaiming that their deity can do ANYTHING and you're just an idiot.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:44 AM

Umm excuse me I am a fan of DBZ and I rarely act like the best DBZ fans Soberguy described. If you don't like DBZ fine but to say all DBZ fans are bad is BS when you don't know everyone who is a DBZ fan or not. I stopped watching DBZ a long time ago when it ended on Toonami. The real good DBZ fans are silent because they like me have been done with DBZ for a long time now. The fans of DBZ now on EF are younger fans just getting into it because maybe there younger or they never watched the show or read the manga.

Me I hate other DBZ fans on EF that think DBZ characters are unbeatable and more powerful then most on EF. True DBZ fans know Goku and others have to train real hard to stay as skilled and powerful as they are. If you know DBZ then you know those characters have limits. They have to train hard to maintain those levels and skills.

By the way the Dragonball Manga was well written and so was the Dragonball Z one. It was fun, had a great adventure, and more. Dragonball GT and and most of the movies were horrible.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:45 AM

Most of the time it's because DBZ fans believe their characters are multi-galaxy level busting powerhouses (Which they aren't). However at the same time it all depends on your power.

For me, I'd say Haruhi or Lina could solo the DBZ verse, but that's because my interpretation of power is that it's more powerful to create than it is to destroy.


However, good or bad, we have to admit that without Speed Racer DBZ never would have made it, and without DBZ we never would have got the stuff we got today thanks to DBZ's commercialism

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:45 AM

Trying to argue about Goku with a DBZ fan is like arguing with a Christian about God. No matter what logical corner you back them into, they escape by loudly proclaiming that their deity can do ANYTHING and you're just an idiot.

Well that could be said about a lot of fans, but again since I have been on EF I haven't seen anyone like that.

Edit: I don't think anyone is understanding me. I am not talking about DBZ fans in general, I'm talking about the ones on EF. Why do we get crap? Like I said other then The Dark Prince I haven't seen one rabid DBZ fan.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:47 AM

I have a hard time excusing even reasonable DBZ fans like bigballerju on the grounds that the show really was fairly terrible.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:48 AM

However, good or bad, we have to admit that without Speed Racer DBZ never would have made it, and without DBZ we never would have got the stuff we got today thanks to DBZ's commercialism


Wait, you meant this as a positive thing, right?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:51 AM

I have a hard time excusing even reasonable DBZ fans like bigballerju on the grounds that the show really was fairly terrible.


Oh trust me alot of the episodes weren't good. But like I said the Mangas for Dragonball and Dragonball Z were good. If people read the manga they would like DB and DBZ more.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:53 AM

The worst DBZ fans are illiterate, idiotic fanboys who wouldn't know a good story if it kicked them in the nards. They are deeply, emotionally invested in the belief that Goku could kick anyone's ass under any conditions and will loudly and violently argue (poorly) this point at the slightest provocation.

The best DBZ fans are people who really like a shitty, outdated Japanese cartoon show for children and occasionally gush about it on the internet.

There is a fairly wide swath between the two for open mockery.

@Hayesmeister5651 I thinks its really any ridiculously stupid fan acts that way its always and only a few people act that way here (Dark Prince) I think its more of a dislike for stupid fanboys then DBZ fans
@Soberguy Now is that really fair? I can understand not liking the show my best friend hates the show but thats really no reason to mock someone who does. I enjoyed the show and a majoirity of the cast is well written (Not Goku) and yeah the animation is outdated (And still some times is better than todays animations.) I could make an argument that it isnt just for children but I shouldnt have to who cares what show someone likes?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:20 AM

@Hayesmeister5651 I thinks its really any ridiculously stupid fan acts that way its always and only a few people act that way here (Dark Prince) I think its more of a dislike for stupid fanboys then DBZ fans
@Soberguy Now is that really fair? I can understand not liking the show my best friend hates the show but thats really no reason to mock someone who does. I enjoyed the show and a majoirity of the cast is well written (Not Goku) and yeah the animation is outdated (And still some times is better than todays animations.) I could make an argument that it isnt just for children but I shouldnt have to who cares what show someone likes?

I see what you saying it just seems like people here on EF think all the DBZ fans are fanboys which isnt the case.

As for Soberguy mocking people well "He's the best at what he does and what he does isn't nice" hence why he is Old Man Logan.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:29 AM

I see what you saying it just seems like people here on EF think all the DBZ fans are fanboys which isnt the case.

As for Soberguy mocking people well "He's the best at what he does and what he does isn't nice" hence why he is Old Man Logan.

I wasnt just saying OMG soberguy's mocking people lol Its fine to mock someone really but hating an entire fanbase because you dont like the show doesnt make sense to me.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:30 AM

Wait, you meant this as a positive thing, right?

I meant it as whatever way you want to interpret it.

Good cause it brought shows like Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Wolf's Reign etc.

Bad cause it brought shows like Naruto, Death Note, Code Geass etc.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:32 AM

I do not like how people are jobbing on DBZ fans like they were diseased. I personally think the only reason people dislike them, is because those people are quick to get mad and ugly. I won't name anyone, but how many times have you seen "DBZ fanboys are stupid," or "You're an idiot" or worst? I rather like DBZ and to this day is still a great show. I personally like that show way more than all you Pokemon Naruto shows hands down. Whether you like it or not, people can like that show and not be considered lame.
Is DBZ outdated? sure, is that bad? no, is it better than most shows on now? yes. is it better than Marvel and DC< all preference, so no the answer is no.

DBZ's fights are great, compared to any Marvel or DC cartoon, the drawings are better too, if you look at the old Justice League show, (The WB one) you see the drawings all bland, with everyone having huge chests, square jaws, and little deatail. Yest you see DBZ is still good and it was a lot older show.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:39 AM

I do not like how people are jobbing on DBZ fans like they were diseased. I personally think the only reason people dislike them, is because those people are quick to get mad and ugly. I won't name anyone, but how many times have you seen "DBZ fanboys are stupid," or "You're an idiot" or worst? I rather like DBZ and to this day is still a great show. I personally like that show way more than all you Pokemon Naruto shows hands down. Whether you like it or not, people can like that show and not be considered lame.
Is DBZ outdated? sure, is that bad? no, is it better than most shows on now? yes. is it better than Marvel and DC< all preference, so no the answer is no.

DBZ's fights are great, compared to any Marvel or DC cartoon, the drawings are better too, if you look at the old Justice League show, (The WB one) you see the drawings all bland, with everyone having huge chests, square jaws, and little deatail. Yest you see DBZ is still good and it was a lot older show.


If you're watching for the drawings I have bad news for you.....

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:48 AM

Personally at least, I am always wary of DBZ debates because I am always dreading someone claiming DBZ fighters are light speed or faster, that every blast is a planet busting hit, or that some of them are galaxy busting. Also, the whole power level thing is tedious, as it seems to be entirely divorced from their actual showings.

Also, I found out (at least, I think I did) that alot of the canon rules for DBZ and such are dictated by some DBZ forum (can't remember it's name).

Also, something that has colored my opinion of the DBZ fandom in general is the whole "Akira Toriyama fake interview" thing. It's commonly refered to as proof straight from Akira Toriyama that DBZ fighters are light speed or faster on several parts of the Internet and... it's a fake interview.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:53 AM

As for Soberguy mocking people well "He's the best at what he does and what he does isn't nice" hence why he is Old Man Logan.



Soberguy != Old Man Rivers.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:53 AM

If you're watching for the drawings I have bad news for you.....

I personaly watch it for the story and I must say it is a very intresting story mostly because of the main part I care about Vegeta.
Vegeta is the shining gem story wise for this anime having a fairly large amount of character development.
Other characters that help the story-Mirai Trunks,Piccolo,Freeza, if its Dragonball Kuririn and Tenshinhan all these characters have very intresting stories and I found them very enjoyable.




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