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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:00 AM

Superman is faster the speed of light and more. Thats the one thing Hayes, Me, Falcon,
and others agree on. I think what we have here now is what will Darkseid do?

Will he teleport Superman which he never does or fight Superman as usual?

Eve though Supes can go FTL Darkseid has appeared behid him in battle and surprised Supes before. Also Supes and Flash cant go from 0 to FTL. They have to build up to it.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 02:37 PM

Superman is faster the speed of light and more. Thats the one thing Hayes, Me, Falcon,
and others agree on. I think what we have here now is what will Darkseid do?

Will he teleport Superman which he never does or fight Superman as usual?


If Darkseid is serious about killing Superman, he will teleport him, if Darkseid Doesn't want to kill Superman, then he Won't teleport him.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 02:37 PM

Here you go bigballerju
Superman tries to work covertly in Apokolips, but Darkseid knows better and sends his beams a great distance, and teleports Superman before the Dark God

1. http://i256.photobuc...manv2104-17.jpg
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Superman #104 [Vol.2]
Darkseid once again teleports Superman but this time from Apokolips back to Earth

1. http://i256.photobuc...manv2104-19.jpg
2. http://i256.photobuc...manv2104-20.jpg
Darkseid teleports Lightray and Orin away to a place of his choosing. Even Orin knows he can’t fight Darkseid’s will

1. http://i256.photobuc...2NewGods005.jpg
2. http://i256.photobuc...2NewGods006.jpg
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New Gods #12 [Vol.2]
Here Darkseid teleports Harry Lockman from Apokolips to Earth

1. http://i256.photobuc..._22_rougher.jpg
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New Gods #1 [Vol.3]
Darkseid teleports himself, Granny Goodness and Desaad to his lab

1. http://i256.photobuc...Godsv301-07.jpg
2. http://i256.photobuc...Godsv301-08.jpg
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Martian Manhunter #34-35 [Vol.2]
Darkseid teleports Martian Manhunter from Apokolips to Mars

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2. http://i256.photobuc...r34kebbin22.jpg
3. http://i256.photobuc...r35kebbin02.jpg
Darkseid once again banishes Superman from Apokolips and sends him home. He felt indebted to Superman for helping him with Doomsday and swore he would not fight Superman till he made amends.

1. http://i256.photobuc...erman518p19.jpg
2. http://i256.photobuc...erman518p20.jpg
3. http://i256.photobuc...erman518p21.jpg

There is more but you get the point

Thanks for all the broken links. I can;t see, but I'd wager he isn't using OB or OE to teleport, as they don't, but boomtubes.

And no, both Flash (Wally West) and Supes can go FTL almost instantly, with no acceleration if he wishes too. In a comic of JLA, Supes caught up to Wally West, in one panel he was still, and the next he was in front of West. Also, when Kyla Rayner asked for his help, sitting in a bed millions of AUs away from earth, Supes got there in a few seconds. So even if he does accelerate, its not enough to make a difference.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 03:13 PM

Thanks for all the broken links. I can;t see, but I'd wager he isn't using OB or OE to teleport, as they don't, but boomtubes.

And no, both Flash (Wally West) and Supes can go FTL almost instantly, with no acceleration if he wishes too. In a comic of JLA, Supes caught up to Wally West, in one panel he was still, and the next he was in front of West. Also, when Kyla Rayner asked for his help, sitting in a bed millions of AUs away from earth, Supes got there in a few seconds. So even if he does accelerate, its not enough to make a difference.

The links are working for me(seemed to work for bigballerju) but you would lose the wager. Go to google type in Darkseid Respect Thread, click on it, scroll to Omega Beams, scroll to 2/3 it will say teleportation, there you go.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 05:10 PM

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all that needs be seen to see that Darkseid wins win the writers dont limit his powers he gets to use for the one comic so the hero can win.

Also Echo, learn about the characters your debating about to prevent you from looking stupid. Darkseid can use the OB to transport beings anywhere in the universe.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 05:52 PM

http://www.killermov...mp;pagenumber=1

all that needs be seen to see that Darkseid wins win the writers dont limit his powers he gets to use for the one comic so the hero can win.

Also Echo, learn about the characters your debating about to prevent you from looking stupid. Darkseid can use the OB to transport beings anywhere in the universe.

And how bout you actually read arguments instead of blindly posting respect threads in order to make yourself seem like less of a retard. Sorry, but blindly ignoring points isn't how you win a debate, my mentally impaired freind. DC Wikia itself says that Darkseid has nanosec. reflexes, not instant ones. He has no defense against FTL speed-blitz. You lose. You're stupid. Deal with it.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:13 PM

People who lose at things tend to be the ones that lash out to make themselves feel better....

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:23 PM

People who lose at things tend to be the ones that lash out to make themselves feel better....

I know. Poor Falcon.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 06:54 PM

I know. Poor Falcon.

No I was thinking of an angry 15 year old kid, who when faced with adversity, resorts to calling people retards or mentally impaired. At first I was annoyed with him, but then again he is a 15 year old kid. A typical 15 year old kid who has pent up emotions and doesn't know how to deal with them so he resorts to his trusty tube sock for release, or just let's out his frustration over the internet.

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:30 PM

No I was thinking of an angry 15 year old kid, who when faced with adversity, resorts to calling people retards or mentally impaired. At first I was annoyed with him, but then again he is a 15 year old kid. A typical 15 year old kid who has pent up emotions and doesn't know how to deal with them so he resorts to his trusty tube sock for release, or just let's out his frustration over the internet.

He always lashes out when a fight that would be almost close and his favorite loses. God forbid you mention Iron Man losing in anyway.

I have thought the same thing. If I had known he was fifteen (or cared) I would have stopped argueing along time ago. He is a teenager and knows everything and is never wrong. Maybe his hooked on phonics teacher will teach him how to read and then move on to reading comprehension. Someday he might be a normal member of society.

On another note I know plenty about the characters, but people like you like to see "scans" so here and the Punisher vs Deathstroke thread I provided you with dozens. I know some of the words are big but the pictures should help

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 10:51 AM

No I was thinking of an angry 15 year old kid, who when faced with adversity, resorts to calling people retards or mentally impaired. At first I was annoyed with him, but then again he is a 15 year old kid. A typical 15 year old kid who has pent up emotions and doesn't know how to deal with them so he resorts to his trusty tube sock for release, or just let's out his frustration over the internet.

Yeah, nice speech. Now why don't you actually look at the damn thread before you run your mouth and see who started insulting who first. I'll give you a hint, the insult was "thickheads".

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 10:59 AM

He always lashes out when a fight that would be almost close and his favorite loses. God forbid you mention Iron Man losing in anyway.

I have thought the same thing. If I had known he was fifteen (or cared) I would have stopped argueing along time ago. He is a teenager and knows everything and is never wrong. Maybe his hooked on phonics teacher will teach him how to read and then move on to reading comprehension. Someday he might be a normal member of society.

On another note I know plenty about the characters, but people like you like to see "scans" so here and the Punisher vs Deathstroke thread I provided you with dozens. I know some of the words are big but the pictures should help

HAVE NICE DAY!!!! :D

Sorry, but posting random scans =/= a coherent argument, which you are NOT capable of doing. You STILL have not provided me with the proof backing instant reflexes. So yeah, If I'm "hooked on phonics", then you're a preschooler who's still learning their ABCs.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:10 AM

Yeah, nice speech. Now why don't you actually look at the damn thread before you run your mouth and see who started insulting who first. I'll give you a hint, the insult was "thickheads".

Read the thread, you came at me first.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:11 AM

Read the thread, you came at me first.

I apologize for that, but I was reffering to Falcon and I however, not you and I.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 12:17 PM

I apologize for that, but I was reffering to Falcon and I however, not you and I.

It's fine, I just don't appreciate being called a retard for no reason. If I said something to you I would expect a retort but this wasn't the case. This is meant to be fun and when it gets personal, it isn't. So Falcon, Force, me, and anyone less just chill out.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 10:19 PM

It's fine, I just don't appreciate being called a retard for no reason. If I said something to you I would expect a retort but this wasn't the case. This is meant to be fun and when it gets personal, it isn't. So Falcon, Force, me, and anyone less just chill out.

Well since Echo refuses to accept Darkseids abilities I guess the debate is over. Darkseid fighting Superman head on matching him blow for blow is proof enough of his reflexes.

Nothing Superman can do would beat Darkseid in a real match without comic barriers for villians.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 10:35 PM

Well since Echo refuses to accept Darkseids abilities I guess the debate is over. Darkseid fighting Superman head on matching him blow for blow is proof enough of his reflexes.

Nothing Superman can do would beat Darkseid in a real match without comic barriers for villians.

Agreed. Someone please close this thread. lol Darkseid wins EVERYTIME no debate, no talking, no excuses. and I thought I was the only one to be disrespected by force_echo. lol

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:06 PM

Agreed. Someone please close this thread. lol Darkseid wins EVERYTIME no debate, no talking, no excuses. and I thought I was the only one to be disrespected by force_echo. lol

Yeah it happens when things dont go his way. He gets upset and starts complaining and name calling. His problem is he refuses to accept facts when they are laid out in front of him. Then he gets upset and continues to argue when EVERYONE says he is wrong. Oh well, what can ya do?

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 02:25 PM

Yeah it happens when things dont go his way. He gets upset and starts complaining and name calling. His problem is he refuses to accept facts when they are laid out in front of him. Then he gets upset and continues to argue when EVERYONE says he is wrong. Oh well, what can ya do?

Yeah, give me PROOF that Darkseid has blocked Supes when he is going FTL. And it has to explicitly say he's going FTL, because like Darkseid never uses his other powers, Supes never uses FTL combat save rarely. Every time I bring this point up, you just ignore it. You even ignore freaking DC wikia itself telling you EXPLICITLY that Seid has nanosecond reflexes. Your debating is shit, how bout you actually address points with proof instead of acting like you're an illeterate dumbass in literally every debate you're in. You even say I started name calling when the proof is RIGHT THERE ON THE SAME DAMN THREAD that you started it, again, this simply serves as definitive proof (as if anyone needed it at this point) that you are full of horseshit, honestly, an intellectual piece of garbage.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 03:02 PM

Yeah, give me PROOF that Darkseid has blocked Supes when he is going FTL. And it has to explicitly say he's going FTL, because like Darkseid never uses his other powers, Supes never uses FTL combat save rarely. Every time I bring this point up, you just ignore it. You even ignore freaking DC wikia itself telling you EXPLICITLY that Seid has nanosecond reflexes. Your debating is shit, how bout you actually address points with proof instead of acting like you're an illeterate dumbass in literally every debate you're in. You even say I started name calling when the proof is RIGHT THERE ON THE SAME DAMN THREAD that you started it, again, this simply serves as definitive proof (as if anyone needed it at this point) that you are full of horseshit, honestly, an intellectual piece of garbage.

Just repsonding to your demeanor from all other debates, no one knows what you know nd course how could they in your warped reality. Even IF Supes attacks, he wouldnt beat Darkseid before he can counter. Darkseid's invulnerability is high enough to take Supes hits and still fight back by simply making a force field and then attacking.

Superman can not win outside of a comic. Darkseid would win 10 out of 10 times.




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