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#1 Artemis Entreri

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 04:08 PM

This is a challenge I pose to whom ever chooses to play. I'm asking you to put together team of (Mortal)heroes from either, Marvel U or DC, to fight against the (Now) evil Summers Family.

The Dark Phoenix has possesed Jean Gray once more and she has mentally corrupted everyone in the Summers family; past, present, and future. She's even corrupted in-laws. The roster look like this.

Cyclops (Leader)

Havok (Co-Leader)

Dark Phoenix (Manipulator)

Corsair (Mentor)

Cable (Tactician)

X-Man (Telepathic God)

Vulcan (The wildcard)

Hyperstorm (The Powerhouse)

Hope (The powerful Newb)

Rachel Summers (Marvel Girl, Phoenix II)

Gambit (The lost Summers Brother)

Franklin Richards (Reality Manipulator) (Rachel's Husband-If your asking why he's here).


Now I ask you... What Mortals or cosmics in the Cosmos could stop the evil Summers family. Put your team together and for extra credit match them against a Summer member.

Personally, I don't see any team rivaling the Summers Family!!!

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 05:36 PM

What Mortals or cosmics in the Cosmos could stop the evil Summers family.

Good writing.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 05:54 PM

That's one hell of a line-up, but I'll see if I can come up with a team, just need some time to think about it first. :)

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 06:16 PM

I have a line up.
The Fury (Marvel)
Elaine Belloc
Q (Star Trek)

This team should beat them.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 06:25 PM

I have a line up.
The Fury (Marvel)
Elaine Belloc
Q (Star Trek)

This team should beat them.

I'm not so sure Q qualifies as a mortal.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 06:56 PM

I'm not so sure Q qualifies as a mortal.


Right, Q is an Immortal! He's out! You can use Cosmics but they must be mortal.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:00 PM

Good writing.


Only human... I miss punctuation marks from time to time.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:01 PM

The Summers line has been identified as the most powerful mutant line in the world, thats why Sinister was so interested in them. I don't think Hope Summers is biologically related to the rest of the Summers. Cyke adopted her though.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:10 PM

This will require even more thinking.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:14 PM

Only human... I miss punctuation marks from time to time.

I wasn't making fun of you.

More implying that a good writer would kill most of them and be done with it.

Especially Cable.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:17 PM

I wasn't making fun of you.

More implying that a good writer would kill most of them and be done with it.

Especially Cable.


Oh yeah I agree; but is that "good writing" or "bad writing"? I love the Summers lineage. I think they are the most powerful family in Marvel and even rivals DC's Superman family roster.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:56 PM

This will require even more thinking.


But anyway

Deathstroke(strategy)
Sage(strategy)
Batman(strategy)
Captain america(strategy)(you would need one hell of a strategy and also they can take out cable, gambit, and corsair
Rouge(ace in the hole, one touch to each of them then she's unstoppable)
Flash(take them out quickly and could carry let rouge touch him so she can get to them quicker)
Scarlet witch(omega reality warping mutant to fight their's)
Hal jordan green lantern(powerhouse)
Quasar(powerhouse)
Nova-prime(powerhouse)
Legion(omega mutant power house)

MY TEAM wins. With prep time or not but ESPECIALLY with prep time and this is how:.
I strategically put mutants and non mutants because of vulcans ability to depower people.
Speedsters(hal jordan, quasar, nova, flash) to be able to take out as many people as possible.
Reality warpers(legion and Scarlet witch to counter theirs)
I put a BIG think tank to have a million different scenarios to defeat them(sage, cap, batman, and deathstroke)
I have people immune to mind control(nova, quasar, hal jordan, legion, sage, deathstroke) so that they still have a think tank to matter what and powerhouses to fight back with)
Then to close it out I have a ace in the hole which is rouge who being able to touch everyone makes her a HUGE threat and as always a great back up plan)

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:04 PM

Cyclops- Deathstroke can easily take him out

Havok- Firestorm(Jason Rusch) this IMO would be a cool fight to watch, I think it could go either way

Dark Phoenix- Parallax out powers her

Corsair- Karate Kid would own him, I mean he has a martial art that can slow down Super Girl

Cable- Martian Manhunter can beat him

Hyperstorm- Black Adam I belive can win here

X-Man- Despero is my choice here, I don't know much about Nate Grey, but I think Despero's power may be too much for him

Vulcan- Monarch's energy manipulation trumps his

Hope- Dr. Fate, I'm not sure about this though

Rachel Summers- eh I'll say Dazzler cuz she has won before

Gambit- Not too hard to beat Midnighter, Batman could take him out. To be sure I'll have Flash just IMP him

Franklin Richards- Mr. Mxyzptlk I believe his reality warping is a higher level

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:31 PM

Good job and a very hard match.

XMan I would like you to take a good look at the line up he put up.

I think you must have either misread it or something else to think anybody on your team can strategize
a win against them.

Look at the most powerful on the team:

Dark Phoenix (Manipulator)
X-Man (Telepathic God)
Vulcan (The wildcard)
Hyperstorm (The Powerhouse)
Hope (The powerful Newb)
Rachel Summers (Marvel Girl, Phoenix II)
Gambit (The lost Summers Brother)
Franklin Richards (Reality Manipulator)

Do you know what there capable of? LOL

Here is a team I am thinking of but haven't really finished it:

Scarlett Witch ( 100% Power)
Dr.Strange ( 100% Power)
Sylar (Heroes) All his powers from every season.
Peter (Heroes) All his powers from every season.

Thats two I have but before I continue what is your definition of mortal?

I was thinking of adding like a World Breaker Hulk or something.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:45 PM

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1. Deathstroke is not a hero.

2. Artemis Entreri's team would easily defeat that one. The combined powers of Franklin, Dark Phoenix and Hyperstorm, not to mention Hope(who will be copying all the powers of the Summers team) and Vulcan, is on a level that your team isn't even getting Close to.


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Deathstroke, Parallax, Despero, Black Adam, Monarch and Mxyzptlk not heroes, and both Parallax and Mxyzptlk are not mortals.

and even without removing the 'illegal' characters, the Summers team still has more raw power.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 10:57 PM

Cyclops vs Wonder Woman

Havok vs Flash

Dark Phoenix vs ION/Kyle Rayner or Crispin Allen Spectre

Corsair vs Batman

Cable vs Black Adam

X-Man vs Martian Manhunter

Vulcan vs Captain Marvel/Shazam

Hyperstorm vs Captain Atom

Hope vs Hal Jordan

Rachel Summers vs Dr. Fate or Zatana

Gambit vs Human Bomb ( Andrew Franklin)

Franklin Richards vs Phantom Stanger

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 11:46 PM

Good job and a very hard match.

XMan I would like you to take a good look at the line up he put up.

I think you must have either misread it or something else to think anybody on your team can strategize
a win against them.

Look at the most powerful on the team:

Dark Phoenix (Manipulator)
X-Man (Telepathic God)
Vulcan (The wildcard)
Hyperstorm (The Powerhouse)
Hope (The powerful Newb)
Rachel Summers (Marvel Girl, Phoenix II)
Gambit (The lost Summers Brother)
Franklin Richards (Reality Manipulator)

Do you know what there capable of? LOL

Here is a team I am thinking of but haven't really finished it:

Scarlett Witch ( 100% Power)
Dr.Strange ( 100% Power)
Sylar (Heroes) All his powers from every season.
Peter (Heroes) All his powers from every season.

Thats two I have but before I continue what is your definition of mortal?

I was thinking of adding like a World Breaker Hulk or something.

Um yes I do know what they can do and deathstroke adsie my team could do it and for the reasons I put out.
I have scarlet witch on my team who can warp reality so anything dark pheonix does she undoes.
Hope is a kid and yes she can mimic powers she can still be taken out by flash because of what? PURE speed!
X-man gets taken out by quasar(immune to mind control of any caliber so it doesn matter)
Vulcan as I pointed out can be taken out by nova prime
Um legion can do ANYTHING(now habe YOU read about him)and can go toe to toe with whoever on that team
Marvel girl honestly is a novice so I will say green lantern
Gabit can go down to cap.
Legion and scarlet witch can just sit there and keep undoing what dark pheonix , franklin richards, and hyperstorm does. Its basically a wax on wax off sort of thing. Because all five can warp reality so its really only between those people.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 06:30 AM

Deathstroke, Parallax, Despero, Black Adam, Monarch and Mxyzptlk not heroes, and both Parallax and Mxyzptlk are not mortals.

and even without removing the 'illegal' characters, the Summers team still has more raw power.

Oh I misread he said hero only, but couldn't anyone be argued as a hero? It is all point of view, I see Muslim terrorists as evil, but at home they are patriots. If I keep my team, I think they can get the win, all of my characters have their opponents powers (kind of) but to a higher degree.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 08:22 AM

Oh I misread he said hero only, but couldn't anyone be argued as a hero? It is all point of view, I see Muslim terrorists as evil, but at home they are patriots. If I keep my team, I think they can get the win, all of my characters have their opponents powers (kind of) but to a higher degree.


No, anyone couldn't be argued as a hero.

A lot of villains in comics are fully aware of their status and actually see themselves as such.

Deathstroke is one of those, Despero is another that doesn't see himself as a hero, Mxyzptlk is yet another.

The only one of the villains you have chosen that actually see's himself as a hero of sorts, is Black Adam.


And that doesn't change the fact that neither Parallax nor Mxyzptlk are mortals, which was another requirement given in the initial 'challenge'.

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Posted 01 April 2011 - 08:25 AM

Um yes I do know what they can do and deathstroke adsie my team could do it and for the reasons I put out.
I have scarlet witch on my team who can warp reality so anything dark pheonix does she undoes.
Hope is a kid and yes she can mimic powers she can still be taken out by flash because of what? PURE speed!
X-man gets taken out by quasar(immune to mind control of any caliber so it doesn matter)
Vulcan as I pointed out can be taken out by nova prime
Um legion can do ANYTHING(now habe YOU read about him)and can go toe to toe with whoever on that team
Marvel girl honestly is a novice so I will say green lantern
Gabit can go down to cap.
Legion and scarlet witch can just sit there and keep undoing what dark pheonix , franklin richards, and hyperstorm does. Its basically a wax on wax off sort of thing. Because all five can warp reality so its really only between those people.


Legion is not nearly as powerful as Franklin, Hyperstorm or Dark Phoenix, let alone Hope who will have all the powers of the Summers team(minus Dark Phoenix) as well as the powers of any mutants you choose, including Legion.

And Scarlet Witch won't be undoing anything, during the period where she might(and that's a big 'maybe') be powerful enough to go toe to toe with Dark Phoenix, Franklin or Hyperstorm, she is mentally unstable and not in complete control of herself, let alone her powers




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