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#1 chakos

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 07:46 PM

Please remember that reviews on this site are done on a case by case basis; we have multiple people who review characters. As such, there are few hard and fast rules about what is and isn't acceptable. The reviewer has discretion. However, this is serge's website and he has given us both general and specific guidelines for accepting characters. I've compiled some here for you.

Characters:

No real people / bands etc, unless they have pop culture significance.

No professional wrestlers. Ever.

No politicians. Ever.

But ... You also have to have a feel for what has Pop Culture significance and where the lines are.

Example: The professional Wrestler "Sgt. Slaughter" was a real professional wrestler AND a also appeared as a character in the G.I Joe Cartoon series. Therefore, "Sgt. Slaughter" is acceptable assuming the pic that is used is from the GI Joe cartoon series.

Hulk Hogan is a professional wrestler, but he also has pop culture significance.

KISS is a rock band (you know, the four guys in the white and black face makeup) BUT they also have both a comic book series and a movie based on them having powers in their stage get-up. Therefore KISS is acceptable.

Steve Irwin in a real person, Mr. T is a real person. Both have pop culture significance. *uncreative* is a real person of no real interest to us because we don't do contests comparing Mass Murderers. Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy and other murderers are of no interest. We do not want them.

Julius Ceasar, Romel the Desert Fox and Napolean *might* be of interest to us because of their supposed historical tactical genius.

But basically, mostly, we deal with fictional characters.


In the case of Duos please don't add them. In the case of full on teams (e.g The Avengers) please continue to add them.


IMBD is kind of a cop-out link. Often times I can google up a replacement in 10 seconds that's much better.

In the other hand, IMDB has the advantage of always being there (not a dead link). But still, not great.


Please don't put parenthetical 'notes' for a character in the name when you submit them!

To quote Sir Exal: "For crying out loud people, we know Trevalyn is from Bond and Near is from DeathNote. Don't bother putting in the parentheses for the place. If people don't know, they can look at the sources."

Parenthesis should only be used for characters in the DB with the same names. Ie, Angel is already in the DB from Buffy. Someone submitted the Marvel mutant X-man as Angel (Marvel). That is acceptable and the only use for parenthesis.

Trevalyn (James Bond 006), for example, is unnecessary. As is something like Optimus Prime (Transformers).

Please watch out for that. We'll likely be editing characters in the DB with unnecessary parenthesis when the admin tools for that come online.

Thanks!

Graphics:

Is there a limit to the size (as long as its under 1 MB) or number of pictures in a character's gallery?

Not really. Gigantic is OK as long as it is a good image of high quality.


As long as we are dealing with good images there's no issue. Too Small or crappy images just deny.

It's intended for really good images or scans or portraits or good 200x200 sized potential battle images.



And as always, please remember that serge and all the other administrators who work on the CBUB do it on their own time. It can take a few days to get a character or graphic reviewed by an admin, especially when there are a lot of characters to go through.

The general rule is to wait a week (7 days) before you ask "what happened to my submission?!"

Thanks!

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:56 PM

A few questions and comments.

1. Would say, Neil Patrick Harris (Insane Harold and Kumar version) or Stephen Colbert (Who is a character played by the actual Stephen Colbert) be acceptable submissions?

2. I see Bulbasaur was recently added. We don't need every Pokemon, I'd say only major ones should be individual.

3. Try and put some effort into your pictures people. It takes like 2 minutes to find a quality picture and properly format it in paint!

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:21 PM

Actually if you want to properly edit your picture, use a more professional program like Adobe Photoshop, or Illustrator.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 03:59 PM

2. I see Black Panther was recently added. We don't need every Avenger, I'd say only major ones should be individual.


See what I'm getting at here? I doubt we're gonna have people submitting, say, Doduo or Starmie or some other fairly obscure Pokemon, but to some people those minor members of super teams are just as "head-scratching" and obscure as one of the less popular Pokemon or something along those lines. Yeah, common sense does come into play, but setting any sort of definate line will be arbitrary in one way or another.

And, yes, I realize the analogy isn't perfect, but y'all get my point.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:19 PM

A few questions and comments.

1. Would say, Neil Patrick Harris (Insane Harold and Kumar version) or Stephen Colbert (Who is a character played by the actual Stephen Colbert) be acceptable submissions?

2. I see Bulbasaur was recently added. We don't need every Pokemon, I'd say only major ones should be individual.

3. Try and put some effort into your pictures people. It takes like 2 minutes to find a quality picture and properly format it in paint!


I did. And Bulbasaur is a major Pokemon. One of the most well-known. He even has his own Wiki page, unlike Charmander or Squirtle.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:39 PM

Neil Patrick Harris (Insane Harold and Kumar version) and Stephen Colbert were summed up in the first sentence of serge's qoute. No real people, unless they have pop culture significance. I'm sorry, but a Neil Patrick Harris match isn't going to liven up the place.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 08:50 AM

Neil Patrick Harris - no.
Dr Horrible - YES!
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Dr_Horrible

Also, I don't get the "no Duos" thing, especially if teams are OK. A Duo is a team of 2. Only teams of 3+ are good, or what?

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 12:12 AM

Okay out of sheer curiosity, we have someone who has been submitting in the Yakuza, Russian Mafia, Irish Mob, and the Chinese Triad... Now we all know these are real groups of people who do pretty mean and nasty violent things to other people but they are also a part of popular culture.

The question is, should I allow these submissions?

Also, what about groups like the IRA (Irish Republican Army) SWAT, GSG9, Spetsnaz, Green Berets, Taliban, Vietcong, Medellin Cartel, Navy Seals, Israeli Commandos, and CIA?

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:24 AM

Working from the original "No *uncreative*" rule, I would say that any person or group who is responsible for large numbers of murders of actual real people should be excluded, regardless of pop culture status (*uncreative* appears in a number of comics and other media and is still excluded, so citing examples for a particular submission doesn't excuse it from exclusion). I'd prefer never to put anyone in a position where they would have to consider whether or not the people that killed one of their close friends or family members could beat Spiderman.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:27 AM

Working from the original "No *uncreative*" rule, I would say that any person or group who is responsible for large numbers of deaths of actual real people should be excluded, regardless of pop culture status (*uncreative* appears in a number of comics and other media and is still excluded, so citing examples for a particular submission doesn't excuse it from exclusion). I'd prefer never to put anyone in a position where they would have to consider whether or not the people that killed one of their close friends or family members could beat Spiderman.



Then wouldn't the same people be complaining about Deadliest Warrior? I was planning on doing some Deadliest Warrior style matches with them and I am NOT content on using the Rumble forum, I mean its ok, but not as good as posting a match on CBUB.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:37 AM

It has been alerted to me that "The Mafia" also already exists. Maybe this entry should be removed retroactively?

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:40 AM

Working from the original "No *uncreative*" rule, I would say that any person or group who is responsible for large numbers of murders of actual real people should be excluded, regardless of pop culture status (*uncreative* appears in a number of comics and other media and is still excluded, so citing examples for a particular submission doesn't excuse it from exclusion). I'd prefer never to put anyone in a position where they would have to consider whether or not the people that killed one of their close friends or family members could beat Spiderman.



So that would be No to the following:

Yakuza
Triad
Russian Mafia
Irish Mob
Vietcong
Irish Republican Army
Medellin
Taliban

But that still doesn't cover the "Good guys" like:

Green Berets
Spetsnaz
Navy Seals
GSG9
SWAT Team

Unless of course they are also covered under the "No *uncreative*" rule.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:48 AM

There are people from real life already in the database, a lot of them, not allowing in my submissions would be an incredible show of hypocrisy. The chances of "offending" someone is very small. Besides, I am against this type of "political correctness" its pointless. Are all of you THAT worried about bad PR? The chances of it happening are almost insignificant. I understand not allowing someone like *uncreative*, but hell Vlad The Impaler is in the database also. Does anyone have a problem with him being included? I have not seen anyone complain. I doubt anyone will complain about any of my submissions.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:55 AM

So that would be No to the following:

Yakuza
Triad
Russian Mafia
Irish Mob
Vietcong
Irish Republican Army
Medellin
Taliban

But that still doesn't cover the "Good guys" like:

Green Berets
Spetsnaz
Navy Seals
GSG9
SWAT Team

Unless of course they are also covered under the "No *uncreative*" rule.

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Hmm, yeah, I dunno. This is all kind of murky territory, and this is just my opinion in particular. I understand that maybe some people want to use these kinds of groups in matches, and who knows, maybe they can come up with some really interesting ideas. But, this is the Comic Book Universe Battles, not the Real Life People Battles. The idea is mostly to deal with fictional characters. If you're really not sure about a particular entry, maybe we can establish a time per week that CBUB review admins can get together and discuss questionable entries and cast a vote, or some similar process, I don't know. I would say any submission that is based on real life should be very carefully considered, especially in a violently controversial context.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 01:59 AM

I understand not allowing someone like *uncreative*, but hell Vlad The Impaler is in the database also. Does anyone have a problem with him being included?



Vlad the Impaler is actually considered a historical hero in Romania, despite his brutal methods in slaying the Turkish occupation in his homeland.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 02:07 AM

Vlad the Impaler is actually considered a historical hero in Romania, despite his brutal methods in slaying the Turkish occupation in his homeland.

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I am aware of that, I was just making a point, I think having Vlad in the database is a good idea. I just don't see the problem with adding my submissions. Not to mention they could cover both the real life AND movie versions of there respective gangs. Did anyone even consider that?

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 02:11 AM

There are people from real life already in the database, a lot of them, not allowing in my submissions would be an incredible show of hypocrisy. The chances of "offending" someone is very small. Besides, I am against this type of "political correctness" its pointless. Are all of you THAT worried about bad PR? The chances of it happening are almost insignificant. I understand not allowing someone like *uncreative*, but hell Vlad The Impaler is in the database also. Does anyone have a problem with him being included? I have not seen anyone complain. I doubt anyone will complain about any of my submissions.


As I said, maybe there needs to be some retroactive deletion from the Pop Culture category. To be honest, I don't really get what significance AC/DC has that it needs to be included as opposed to, say, any other band currently out there. I'm sure there's probably several others that maybe don't need to be there as well.

I don't like your insinuation of hypocrisy though. There are have been numerous people contributing their time and effort to try to help run this site; just because one happens to not let you have your way (which, should be pointed out, you are in no way entitled to have) does not mean you get to start leveling insults at the admins. If you don't like how things are done here, you're free to disagree and request a change. If you still don't like it, you're free to leave.

That said, I think it would be a good idea to have all the current CBUB review team get together (maybe in IRC?) and have a chat about acceptance guidelines concerning this sort of thing so we're all on the same page.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 02:13 AM

As I said, maybe there needs to be some retroactive deletion from the Pop Culture category. To be honest, I don't really get what significance AC/DC has that it needs to be included as opposed to, say, any other band currently out there. I'm sure there's probably several others that maybe don't need to be there as well.

I don't like your insinuation of hypocrisy though. There are have been numerous people contributing their time and effort to try to help run this site; just because one happens to not let you have your way (which, should be pointed out, you are in no way entitled to have) does not mean you get to start leveling insults at the admins. If you don't like how things are done here, you're free to disagree and request a change. If you still don't like it, you're free to leave.

That said, I think it would be a good idea to have all the current CBUB review team get together (maybe in IRC?) and have a chat about acceptance guidelines concerning this sort of thing so we're all on the same page.



I had not intention of insulting you guys, I am just being honest.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 02:18 AM

I had not intention of insulting you guys, I am just being honest.


You can have no intention of doing something and still do it, just like you can be honest and still be wrong.

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 05:37 PM

The rules aren't up for debate. Fictional characters only. How hard is that to understand? If you want to use The Corleone family, or The Sopranos, fine, there are links for those, they have a basis in fiction. "The Mafia" is such a loose, generic description that has so many interpretations both real and imagined, it's honestly stupid to consider putting that in the database. It's like trying to add "The US Government" to the database. It wouldn't work. Something like "The Bartlett Administration" from The West Wing might be acceptable, if you found links for it and could support your case.




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